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Dazz
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i was jus treading through your posts and had a similar problem before on a passat there is a spray you can get called (belt grip) you spray it on when the belt is running i have seen it in the car accsesory shops! it puts a kind of rubber layer on the belt it staies tacky to help on cold start up,or maybe put a better brand belt on (Gates) seem to be a good brand as i dont beleve in stealership parts for some of there basic servicing parts e.g. oil plugs belts there's better to be got..
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Mick525i
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Cheers Alan will do. I think Ed is due into you soon. Ill pop in with him. Thanks
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Hi Mick, Next time you are passing give me a shout and I will take a quick look. If everything is in good order the belt should not need any lube etc. In general, the mechanic in a spray can is more of a marketing exercise that of any real benefit. Alan
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You're online..... stick it in the post..... Ill send back what I dont use.... Ok then Ill have a look for it on the web. Cheers Mick |
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540 V8
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Shame you live so far away, I've got a whole can! Wurth do it but I think they only supply to the motor trade. Have you tried searching online to see if anyone does it? Mike |
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Thanks for that, but I cant get silicone spry. I have tried a few places but no joy. (I have yet to come ot of halfords with what I need) Mick |
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540 V8
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Not oil as such Mick but silicone spray is quite effective. It drives out the moisture and helps 'feed' (for want of a better phrase?) the rubber on the belt. Don't forget, dry rubber loses it's grip and goes brittle. Silicone nourishes the rubber and helps it grip. HTH Mike |
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When the water pump went on my E34, it was a horrific, loud grinding noise that could be heard whether the car was cold or hot...never went away...definately not a squeel... No one has suggested that the alternator bearings are going...that is a pretty common source of squeeling on BMW's...??? BB Edited by BeemaBoy |
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Andrew Rolland
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Not necessarily. The bearings in my distributor in my 3.0i 24V Senator used to squeal only when cold then it would stop once the car warmed up. There is no way you could oil them or access them and they weren't fed from the engine oil sump. A while later, when doing 80mph in the middle lane on the M1 the bearings on the dizzy shaft decided to fail and sent the rotor arm into the side of the dizzy cap and blew the thing into a million pieces. I thought my timing chains had snapped and left the timing casing and were dragging on the black stuff from the noise the car was making. Fairly scary stuff! Andrew |
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surely if the water pump bearings are worn it will be noisy all the time, even more so as it gets hot with expansion and the likes,
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LOL I would love to see them try. I will try the belt "oil" if it still makes noise then ill do the pump. Getting lazy Rear pads need doing too Thanks gents Mick |
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Andrew is right. Do yourself a favour and learn from my misfortune. Change that pump! |
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Meant to add, yes the belt tensioners are auto tensioners. How exactly would a dealer diagnose a faulty waterpump without stripping it out? It isn't like you can listen to the bearings thru a screwdriver as the bearings are covered by the pulley which is near some revolving fan blades! Andrew |
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Good info there Dutch but if Micks car has only done 28,000 miles the pulleys shouldn't be that highly polished. I replaced my water pump at 63,000 miles as I had heard of horror stories of these things failing as Virgin says at speed on a motorway! I only did the waterpump as I discovered that when I had removed the viscous fan it would be really straight forward to remove it. Once the fan and shroud are out the way, all you need is a 16mm spanner to move the tensioners out of the way to slip the belt off the pulleys. £37 ish from ECP for an OEM water pump. £75 from a main $tealer. No prizes for guessing where I bought mine from. Andrew |
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Thanks mate Ill give that a go.. Cheers Mick |
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I think the tensionerson the e39s are auto tensioners, you may find that the pulleys have become 'polished' allowing the belts to slip from cold, a company called wurth do a v-belt lubricant iirc you can buy it from halfrauds its not oil based,some sort of silca spray,it also works on poly v-belts on the e39s hth
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Thats my understanding too. I think BMW service think all owners no nothing about mechanics. Mick |
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I spoke to the Dealer and they said that the tensioners x2 were done along with all aux belts. They said its probelry not the pump but I could drop it in for diagnosis. IT would need to be on fire for them to diagnose a heat issue Any way is there any adjusting on the tensoniers and if so is it difficult? Thanks, Mick |
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There is only 28K miles on it. I will get it checked. Thanks Mick |
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