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    Posted: 23-January-2007 at 19:49
Just ordered a Bosch 6000k HID kit for my car,couldn`t stand the crap headlamps any longer.
I am not expecting to much,as I have heard things like "the reflectors are the wrong shape and won`t forcus the beam for optimal performance" etc.
I would just settle for an improvement over the 100 watt bulbs I have fitted at the moment.Am I expecting to much?

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Hope not, please post up some before & after pics!
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Originally posted by jon90 jon90 wrote:

Just ordered a Bosch 6000k HID kit for my car,couldn`t stand the crap headlamps any longer.
I am not expecting to much,as I have heard things like "the reflectors are the wrong shape and won`t forcus the beam for optimal performance" etc.
I would just settle for an improvement over the 100 watt bulbs I have fitted at the moment.Am I expecting to much?

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I have just fitted some HID's to the tourer. What a difference!
But back to your conversion. I have seen that Andrew's HID lights are from an Audi TT (just the inner lense).
Don't know of how much a fiddle that is, but he said the same about converting the stockers to HID than you. Bright, but still not good. And using the "proper" reflectors will enable you to use standard HID bulbs which are available on EBAY for reasonable money. Not like the conversion type bulbs. I have also been told that some of the higher K numbers bulbs live expectation isn't so good.

forgot to mention. I have a bulb holder conversion kit for H1 to HID bulbs. I wanted to fit these to the M3, but can't be bothered anymore. If you get stuck with yours let me know. You can have them for a tenner.
I also have bulb converters for H7 (E36) to HID.

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Thanks for the offer Uwe.
Just had a thought,I wonder if they will fit in my black headlamps?Oh well too late now,fingers crossed.

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Originally posted by Derek M5 Derek M5 wrote:

Hope not, please post up some before & after pics!

 

I'd be interested also to see the difference!! The idea of doing the conversion was planted in my head the other night........also interested in which ones people have fitted/recomend??

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Jon in case you're not aware 6000k isn't as 'bright' as 4300K (20% less). In that 6000k isn't white light it will have a coloured 'max power' look to it...





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I really couldn`t give a sh*t what colour the light is I just want to see where I`m going

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Jon,

I fitted one of the hids4u kits to my M3 just over a year ago.  Fantastic is all I can say.  Lovely crisp light, and the standard lamp units focus the beam perfectly.  The cut off is brilliant, and they don't dazzle others on the road.

My car has the later "smiley" lights, which seem to do a better job of the directing of the light. Not sure which lights you have, but if the older ones don't do the job so well you could perhaps look for a pair of the newer type from a breakers?

I thoroughly recommend the change though, you certainly won't look back!



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Thanks for the encouraging news Sam.Do you remember what heat range you fitted?
Will post some before and after pics for those that have asked.

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Originally posted by jon90 jon90 wrote:

Thanks for the encouraging news Sam.Do you remember what heat range you fitted?
Will post some before and after pics for those that have asked.

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Don't buy lights from the breaker. GSF is selling NEW single ones for not much money.
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I have both clear and black new smiley`s,although I aquired a bullet hole in my new black ones at Brands
If anyone tells you the lenses are easy to change don`t listen because they are a right pain.

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Originally posted by jon90 jon90 wrote:

I have both clear and black new smiley`s,although I aquired a bullet hole in my new black ones at Brands
If anyone tells you the lenses are easy to change don`t listen because they are a right pain.

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LoooooL!! That's what I found when I had that angle eye virus. I gave up in 2 mins after examination of the lamp housing.
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Jon,

I think mine were 600K's, but I need to check on the original packaging.  Either way, they are very "white" and not MaxP in their look.  Any brighter would be offensive to others I reckon...

One other by product is that they take about 5 secs to warm up to the correct light, which is then totally constant.  With the halogens, if you sat at tick over with say the fan and rear windo heater on as well as the lights, they would surge and go a bit dim with rising and falling engine revs.  made the car feel a bit like a banger.  The HIDs are rock solid.  They only consume 35 watt too, instead of the 55 watt H1 bulbs.

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Jon, wasn't saying 6000k isn't better than halogen, just saying 4300k is even brighter than the 6000k, which will give even better light output.

There is also the option of HID 50w racing kits...
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Mine are definitely 600K - just checked the box.

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Be very careful about the alignment.

As Irving Berlin said, 'there may be trouble ahead...':


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Be very careful about the alignment.As Irving Berlin said, 'there may be trouble ahead...':<span style="text-decoration: underline;"></span>Autoexpress video reportEdited to correct link (I hope!).


Because of that I decided against conversion bulbs and bought proper BMW XENON Lamps. When I pulled them apart to clean the lenses, I could indeed see that the reflector is different to the Halogen unit.
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That`s why I was glad to here from Sam saying that his had a good cut of and doesn`t dazzel other road users.Just hope I get the same results.

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Originally posted by jon90 jon90 wrote:

That`s why I was glad to here from Sam saying that his had a good cut of and doesn`t dazzel other road users.Just hope I get the same results.

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just let somebody drive your car towards yourself. And if you don't like it take it off. You can still contact Demlotcrew and ask him about his conversion. I am sure FAB can supply plenty of broken headlights from newer models with the lensbit still intact.
I was even thinking to get one of the bi-xenons inserts and get rid of the high beams for an air intake
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I lied....

No, only kidding.  They are just like a brighter, crisper version of the elipsoidal lights as per OEM. 

I saw the controversy about the Auto Express article on the Z forum, and wasn't best pleased.  This country eh? What a sh@te place it is getting to live in!

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