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    Posted: 19-January-2007 at 12:18

Will an m tech 1 sttering wheel from an m3 e30 bolt straight into my 1985 m6?

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Yep no problems Rohan

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Paul,

Thanks for your help.

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No probs! The M-Tech 2 steering wheel will also fit as well

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Had a Mtec 1 originally on my six. However you will find an E30 M3 mtec 1 wheel is slightly smaller as the E24 shares the Mtec diameter with the 5 series cars that had them. Not that this is a problem as it will give you a slightly better turn in.

 

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Originally posted by 3.0csl 3.0csl wrote:

Will an m tech 1 sttering wheel from an m3 e30 bolt straight into my 1985 m6? ....

What month in 1985 was your M635CSi built, Rohan?

If it was built before September 1985 (and some were), then the M-Tech 1 steering wheel should be a coarse-splined one (24 splines, I think).

BUT:

If built from September 1985 onwards, then you need a fine-splined example (36 splines). They are not interchangeable, unless you know a way of swapping hubs.

My knowledge of E30 M3s is minimal, but I get the feeling that all of them may have had fine-splined steering wheels, since they followed the M635CSi onto the market, particularly in the UK.



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Originally posted by e34silver530i e34silver530i wrote:

No probs! The M-Tech 2 steering wheel will
also fit as well


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Er, hand on a mo. As Horse says, the splines vary - plus on pre-9/85 cars
the steering lock operates on the coloumn shaft and on later cars an E30
style steering lock engages with teeth on the inside of the steering wheel.
Put another way - if you can remove the steering wheel (22mm nut) with
the kets out of the ignition you have the early sort and no, the later E30
wheel will not fit.
A B plate E23/E24/E28 car (UK) will have the early type whereasd most
(but not all) C plates have the later E30 wheel.
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Another clue is to look at the (admittedly tiny) datestamp which is cast inside the steering wheel hub.

The stamp on my M-Tech 1 steering wheel (which I will be fitting - sorry, Rohan!) appears to say "6/85", so theoretically suitable for my 1983 car.

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Not if it's got the internal teeth for the steering lock it won't. 6/85 could
still be from an E30.
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Originally posted by Andyboy Andyboy wrote:

Not if it's got the internal teeth for the steering lock it won't. 6/85 could still be from an E30.

No sign of any specific internal teeth on mine, Andy. The only thing I can see in the hub are the splines.

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Another simple way to tell the build dates on the car assuming no changes have occoured on the M635 is to check the rear spolier. Pre 9/85 cars had an all rubber spoiler at the rear where as post 9/85 M635's had the rubber and body coloured rear spoiler. If you have the later rear spoiler and it has not been added then the car should be fine.

 

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Originally posted by Horsetan Horsetan wrote:

Originally posted by Andyboy Andyboy wrote:

Not if it's got the internal teeth
for the steering lock it won't. 6/85 could still be from an E30.
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No sign of any specific internal teeth on mine, Andy. The only thing I
can see in the hub are the splines.

Take a piccy and post it
up - then we'll know!
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Originally posted by Andyboy Andyboy wrote:

Take a piccy and post it
up - then we'll know!

In that case, I'm off to the shed (and I don't mean the car )....

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Originally posted by Horsetan Horsetan wrote:

In that case, I'm off to the shed (and I don't mean the car )....

that wouldn't be the.............

.......Welly shed would it HT? .................... oh

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Honestly. You Council types repairing old bangers in the street. 'Tut"

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Originally posted by Rhys Rhys wrote:

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Tcha, I've got 6113.... *snif*

Anyway, this is what the hub of a post-September 1985 steering wheel should look like:

My M-Tech 1 wheel in the shed looks nothing like that. It does NOT have the outer ring of teeth. Instead there is a plastic lug.



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The outer ring of teeth are for the steering lock, the inner splines are the thing to worry about whether it will fit to your car

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Looks like there were a lot of BMW parts (as well as BMW motorcycles) fell off the back of a ship, the Napoli, including steering wheels (I saw a chap on the telly with an M-Tech one).

"But some of the items plundered from the container ship have already been listed on the internet auction website eBay.

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