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bmw1066
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Fair point but I could list the same as you have just said for Ford BMW and Voxheep. Jap 4+4 are very relible but then it's a jap car. I used to work for a land rover non main dealer. AS 4 the window mec I too have replaced them on a free lander at to years and the sun roof mec but having sain that so have I replaced them on a many ford's and other makes at simaler ages. I know land rover are bad and It's not very good there arfter sails is crap but no other mrke is a lot better. My mate at Part's Copers BMW has had his toyota in the main agent 8 time this year thay have had the car for near 4 in totol. I'm just a sad nuptey that love's Land rovers and other unrelible trash |
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Peter Fenwick
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I know a bloke who's wife has had 3 Discoveries Diesels in a row and all of them have had serious problems ranging from gearboxes going bang to head gaskets blowing. The latest one was bought brand new and has still had issues. My sister has a landrwover freelander that is three years old and just outside of the new car warranty. Recently the window mechanism in the drivers door failed so she went back to the main dealer who told her that the window runner had rusted away due to water ingree and would need replacing. When she questioned if this should be covered by landrover they said no. For a just over 3 year old car to be suffering from such problems is, IMO, totally unacceptable. I went on a work team building event once that included some off road driving in ladrover defenders. The guy who ran the offorad centre told me that no other 4x4 could do what a defender does, however he also told me that they break down quite lot and that unless you need to do a lot of serious off roading a japanese one was a better buy. Oh and he used to work for landrover, taking new customers out to show them what their new car could do etc. Lots of cars have problems, my ford focus is a perfect example, however I suspect that the reason you may see more fords and vauxhalls with problems that other makes is down to how many there are. There are litterally 3 times more focuses in my work car park than any other single make of car let alone model.
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bmw1066
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Well I am a big land rover fan And have a v8 Disco never had any mager probloms v8 still running great 140+k. I also know of plenty of people that have had more probloms with there Ford Focus that the Range rover. I can list Horror storyes From all mager Man's, Ford, Voxhall, BMW, VAG. Been in the trad I get to see all maner of things and ford voxheep are bye fare the worst affenders. Yes land rovers ant great and the p38 is very very bad but you will onley eve hear horror storyes. Look at BMW Turbos going at 50k and Then you have the Nickeal, VAG have gear box and fule injecters going, Ford and voxhepp mainley love to eat ECU's land rover any the best in the world but knowing people that have driven to cape town and back in the 230k Disko and one guy in his 170k RR drove to and arout SA for over a year. |
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Mark 735 se 1982
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I could tell you a few Discovery horror stories. I wouldn't have one given and that's not just because I hate 4x4s |
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maybe "turbo timers" should become standard fitment |
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Andrew Rolland
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Landie Turbo problems? Well the Landie we used for site, you could drive into the site compound, switch off the engine, walk into the site huts, sit down and still hear the turbo run. No oil to the bearings and the red hot turbo is still spinning. They are a time bomb waiting to go off. Not enough people know to let the engine tick over before switching off. Andrew |
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Just out off intrest how many people let the turbo's cool down arfter a drive?
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Never hard off any probloms with the Disco turbo's ? and I a avid land rover fan |
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Andrew Rolland
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Yeah no suprise to me when they said they had to replace the turbo and all the fuel injectors on the car. Obviously cost wasn't an issue. Injectors 300 each? Turbo 2-3k Ouch. Which is why I don't have a diesel beamer! Even though they are great to drive. I think the clue is in the first three letters of the fuel. DIEsel Andrew |
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Don't believe that for a moment as there grew SFA in that fields, which incidently is not far from were I live. |
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Sporty1,
Yes I saw it, they did have the problem but placed the blame on the methanol additive used in the fuel for wasting the seals. |
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Any see Top Gear last night? Their 330D doing the Britcar 24Hr at Silverstone had exactly the same problem after a turbo failure at 44,000 miles. Obviously not an isolated incident. |
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cheeky g*t - not all threads are locked when they age.
more so for rudeness |
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appeal to a moderators fair and compassionate side.... oh wait.... |
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How did the fuel manage to leak into the sump? I would have thought that the two were not linked in anyway. All I can say is I'm glad I didn't buy a diesel BM. I think Jabuk must be one of the lucky ones. Andrew PS Given the last date on this thread 22.01.07, wasn't this thread locked, if so how do you get it unlocked just out of curiosity? |
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Blimey, that's taken a long time to sort out - what did you do with the car in the mean time, was it laid up till they paid to have it fixed?
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Wow. Great result if a bit long waiting. So it was like my Merc truck of nearly 12 years ago. Diesel in the oil. Mad eh.... Cheers Mick |
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Hello All,
Last update was some considerable time ago but things have
moved on, somewhat slowly.
So for me it is a result although it has taken a year to resolve. No
compensation for depreciation. I count myself lucky I got what I did. What compounded the guilt for the garage was that the week
before the vehicle was in for a suspected turbo failure evident by loss of
power and bucket loads of white smoke from exhaust. They changed the turbo and
asked my why I had added engine oil. Of course I had not but did not think
anything of it at the time. The garage failed to spot the high oil level in the
sump as a major symptom. A simple examination of the pump would have shown the
problem. I guess they will not make that costly mistake again. |
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Any Joy James? How are you finding the dealers so far?
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Blimey.. hope all goes right in the end. Was thinking about a disco at one time but the turbo issues put me off - same with the 5.. Good luck
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