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Pipes
Groupie Joined: 11-July-2005 Location: Sheffield Status: Offline Points: 48 |
Topic: Chip Tuned Posted: 07-July-2006 at 22:49 |
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Anybody with any info or experience with Chip tuning on a Six? No idea
what the gains could be. Been quoted 300 for a rolling road chip tune. Wondered if it was worth the money? |
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Pipes
Groupie Joined: 11-July-2005 Location: Sheffield Status: Offline Points: 48 |
Posted: 09-July-2006 at 20:59 | |
Jesus! What did I say?
Has this been covered extensively elsewhere? |
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Webdunk
Moderator Group M3 GT Register Joined: 16-October-2002 Location: Central Scotland Status: Offline Points: 5245 |
Posted: 10-July-2006 at 08:53 | |
You'll need to bide your time for an answer from within the 6 forum. Altho Chip Tuning has been covered extensively elsewhere, I'm not sure that many 6 owners on here have taken the plunge. A couple of the 6s featured in this months TBMW have been chipped so that might be a starting point..?
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dog man
Newbie Joined: 25-June-2006 Location: Harpenden, Herts Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: 10-July-2006 at 15:12 | |
I'm keen to find out more too Pipes
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Pipes
Groupie Joined: 11-July-2005 Location: Sheffield Status: Offline Points: 48 |
Posted: 10-July-2006 at 15:59 | |
a lot of the american 6's that I've seen on
bigcoupe.com seem to have been chipped. |
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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 10-July-2006 at 16:12 | |
....by Dinan. Mainly because the US-spec cars were down on power compared to the Euro ones, so all they were doing was playing catch-up in most cases. If it's replaceable chips you're looking at, then Superchips, BBR or Jayson (ChippedUK) are usually the way to go, but really only post-1985/6 cars can be dealt with. "Highlines" are better suited to this treatment. Jayson reckons he can re-programme or remap some of the earlier cars (Motronic 2.1 ECUs, normally coded "011" by Bosch), but the chip itself cannot be taken out and replaced by another because Bosch hard-wired these early ones in. Re-mapping has had some UK coverage already, mainly from owners of M635CSis (all years) who have discovered themselves to be down on power over the years..... Also, the "Highline" edition of the M635CSi sometimes didn't leave the factory with the full 286hp.... Edited by Horsetan |
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Pipes
Groupie Joined: 11-July-2005 Location: Sheffield Status: Offline Points: 48 |
Posted: 10-July-2006 at 18:04 | |
Ok cheers for that. I'll give them a call.
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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 10-July-2006 at 22:56 | |
To find out which version ECU you've got in your car, CLICK HERE and scroll down to read the full list
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chippeduk
Really Senior Member II ECU Tech Joined: 04-June-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 696 |
Posted: 11-July-2006 at 07:38 | |
What year and engine is it you have ?
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jayson@chippeduk.com www.chippeduk.com 07815-501867 - 01527-579345 |
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Pipes
Groupie Joined: 11-July-2005 Location: Sheffield Status: Offline Points: 48 |
Posted: 11-July-2006 at 08:26 | |
1986 C Reg 635csi auto
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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 11-July-2006 at 09:44 | |
Might be an "018" ECU (Motronic 1.3) you've got, then.
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Pipes
Groupie Joined: 11-July-2005 Location: Sheffield Status: Offline Points: 48 |
Posted: 11-July-2006 at 16:27 | |
ChippedUk said this (no idea what it means):
We can do this ecu but you are tied with what can be altered. We can get around 11hp on this ecu with direct flash of the main eeprom by removing the ecu and mapping it direct with an emulator. |
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Webdunk
Moderator Group M3 GT Register Joined: 16-October-2002 Location: Central Scotland Status: Offline Points: 5245 |
Posted: 11-July-2006 at 16:41 | |
ROFL Well that's not going to win any awards from the Plain English society
If it's answering a query of can my car be chipped, I think it means : Yes. Only so much can be done tho. Gains of up to 11bhp can be attained. Your current EPROM has its program overwritten. This is done be removing the car's ECU and guddling with it using an emulator. Any clearer? |
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Jimbob
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 27-July-2005 Location: Live: West Sussex - Work: Islington Status: Offline Points: 190 |
Posted: 11-July-2006 at 16:51 | |
Jayson - is there anything worth doing to mine? 1981 635csi |
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And so says Jimbob.
1981 635csi 81k miles. Will be fixed, but not by me. |
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Webdunk
Moderator Group M3 GT Register Joined: 16-October-2002 Location: Central Scotland Status: Offline Points: 5245 |
Posted: 11-July-2006 at 16:57 | |
Contact Jayson direct via the phone numbers in his sig - he's a busy man and isn't always on here / on eMail.
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dog man
Newbie Joined: 25-June-2006 Location: Harpenden, Herts Status: Offline Points: 34 |
Posted: 12-July-2006 at 00:41 | |
229bhp(for 218bhp cars) potentially then.....thats nearly e46 330i territory is that
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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 12-July-2006 at 09:55 | |
I was quoted "up to 8 hp" for Motronic 2.1.... |
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Pipes
Groupie Joined: 11-July-2005 Location: Sheffield Status: Offline Points: 48 |
Posted: 12-July-2006 at 10:13 | |
11hp is it worth the money? Although I guess it's
fairly hassle free compared with other engine mods. Would the gains be that noticeable? |
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Horsetan
Really Senior Member II Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
Posted: 12-July-2006 at 12:04 | |
Dunno, it depends on how much Jayson charges you in the event of you booking in to be dealt with by him. At a really wild guess, I'd expect it to be somewhere between £150 and £350 for the work, though...
If you think (or had it confirmed) that your car is way down on power, then you've probably got more chance of being aware of any improvements. I'm not sure I would notice the full eight extra bhp in my case. I'd spend the money on new tyres and the upgrade to M635CSi suspension first, and see how effective that is on putting the existing power to the floor. |
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AndyS
Really Senior Member II The Last of the Few Joined: 21-August-2003 Location: 55 � North Status: Offline Points: 1365 |
Posted: 12-July-2006 at 15:29 | |
Seeing how many of the unchipped cars were down on power during the TBMW rolling road day there's a fair chance your car (& mine!) aren't delivering the full whack. You have to ask yourself, "Am I bovvered?". Unless you're enterinhg the car in some sort of motorsport competition a few bhp here or there isn't going to make any difference really. What you will gain is a more lively response to the throttle which should make the car nicer to drive. Dave Jerrome said it's like having the car in sport mode. Highlines are said to be more responsive to chip tuning than earlier cars. |
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