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Just a thought about having the database in your in car system......how are you going to update it ?

You'd either need a jolly long lead, a detachable memory cassette of some kind, or to be able to update via cd.

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Nigel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941	Posted: 16-August-2003 at 20:11
	Sniff Just a thought about having the database in your in car system......how are you going to update it ? You'd either need a jolly long lead, a detachable memory cassette of some kind, or to be able to update via cd.
	Best Wishes Nigel

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Nigel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941	Posted: 16-August-2003 at 12:01
	Ian I've had it explained to me, both by friendly french and irish plods, that it is illegal to have ANY device that detects the position of "law enforcement" devices, or police cash points as they are known over here. The irish were typically laid back, and were just letting me know, being a little embarrassed at having stopped my car to check the road fund licence, not having noticed it had british plates !! The frogs on the other hand were going to confiscate it and fine me, I only escaped because one of them spotted my ham radio gear, and was himself a radio anorack, so in the end we exchanged callsigns, shook hands, and he let me "hide" it in the boot and drive away. Edited by Nigel
	Best Wishes Nigel

Sniff Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 13-February-2003 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 88	Posted: 16-August-2003 at 11:58
	Great idea about combining the GPS navi with something like a Road Angel database. It would be easy too, as the navi systems already do Point of Interest (stuff like petrol stations, hotels, restaurants etc) and the traffic cams would just be another POI. I would think it's just a question of licensing...maybe someone should write to whoever makes Road Angel and suggest it?!

aussie840 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Skip Joined: 07-June-2003 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 251	Posted: 16-August-2003 at 11:35
	...this was the link I meant http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm

aussie840 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Skip Joined: 07-June-2003 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 251	Posted: 16-August-2003 at 11:34
	Sniff...interesting about the OEM wiring bus option. I'll definitely investigate that here as well. Phil...yes would be perfect if the Becker unit had the fixed and average mobile camera database too. Nigel...are you saying Raod Angels are illegal in some areas of Europe? Radar & Lasar detectors here are illegal but GPS units like Road Angel are not. Our cops use a Queensland made device called a Stalcar RDD which detects radar detectors so that market here died overnight once they started using them. Interesting too see in the UK gatso are being torched by the locals! http://www.speedcam.co.uk/index2.htm And I thought aussies has no respect for the law! Makes me proud to be in the commonwealth. Ian

Nigel Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941	Posted: 16-August-2003 at 10:55
	Interesting thought phil, but on my travels, these things only seem to be legal in the uk, true of europe at least, I have the dashboard mounted roadangel, with plug in laser detector. It seems its the death penalty in europe and even southern ireland for having one of these !!
	Best Wishes Nigel

PhilC Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Senior Member II Joined: 15-December-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 161	Posted: 16-August-2003 at 10:20
	Interesting reading guys.. Wouldn't it be great if these things could have the GPS fixed camera updatable database built in. Phil

Sniff Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 13-February-2003 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 88	Posted: 15-August-2003 at 10:59
	From what I have read there are a few different versions. You can get a Becker one from any auto av shop which will be a generic one. However I understand that you can get OEM badged ones that have a bus specific to the wiring of the manufacturer involved. Thus a BMW badged one should (I haven't yet checked with my dealer...bank holiday here today!) be able to control my CD changer in the boot. There are a few versions it seems. 4720/4725/4733/4751 vary only in colour of the display. The 7820/7823/7825 seems to have a higher performance processor for quicker route calculations (also possibly more info from CD..Michelin Guide?). Again the differing model numbers denote different colour displays. The 7851 is the same as the 782x models but can be mounted at 30-60 degrees. I'm going to check with my dealer next week about suitability for the8, and I'll post what I find out. I don't think the Road Angel works here. But then we don't have as many speed traps I dont think!

aussie840 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Really Senior Member I Skip Joined: 07-June-2003 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 251	Posted: 14-August-2003 at 21:18
	Hi Sniff, I have been looking at Sat Nav and considering a portable Magellan unit. But I do like the Becker 7825. Its the about the closest looking OEM unit to suit the 8. Some aftermarket units wreck the appearance of the middle console. I also was wondering about CD unit being compat. and was going to call my local dealer and ask the techies: http://www.soundlabsgroup.com.au/automotive/bmw.htm http://www.soundlabsgroup.com.au/becker/becker_oem.htm Is this model you were looking at: http://caraudiosecurity.com/catalog/product_info.php+manufacturers_id+14+products_id+1262 Although I really want a Road Angel GPS unit as well! Ian


Sniff Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 13-February-2003 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 88	Posted: 14-August-2003 at 14:51
	No-one got a Navi system?

Sniff Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Groupie Joined: 13-February-2003 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 88	Posted: 13-August-2003 at 16:59
	Anyone got the Becker Traffic Pro radio/cd/navi unit in their 8? There have been a few posts from guys in the USA over on Roadfly about this model (Harmon/Kardon in the US) and it looks good, but I wanted to know what it's like for Europe. Are the map coverages decent? Detail? You can get a red display...is that close in colour to the dials on the dash? Can it control the standard 6-CD changer from the 8 (rebadged Pioneer?) or will I lose that? My local dealer here in Germany is offering it (tho badged as a BMW model) for 1500 Euros installed, which seems like a good deal.