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    Posted: 02-May-2006 at 14:31

Today i had it confirmed by HARRY FAIRBAIRN BMW GLASGOW they have been bought out by ARNOLD CLARK also inc the sale of the HARRY FAIRBAIRN BMW IRVINE dealership and bodyshop i have been a loyal bm customer to this dealership the past 16 years and i'm dearly concerned for the bmw marque and all it stand for in the industry and personal disscusted at BMW GB for letting this go ahead poor old harry fairbairn must be turning in his grave how does anyone else feel  !!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2006 at 14:47

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2006 at 16:01
That's not good news.... Arnold Clark are terrible, certainly up in the part of the world.

A couple of years back if you googled "Arnold Clark" the first link was Arnoldsucks.com not a dodgy site but a very disastisfied customer along with hundreds of others who left feedback with similar experiance.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2006 at 16:17

so what will happen to the place?  will it still be called harry fairburn and part of the bmw dealer network carrying on as before but run by arnie clark;  are they flattening the place and building another arnold clark dealership; or is it doing away with the bmw dealer part and selling other makes instead?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2006 at 17:39

forgot ..... i was told about this when my car was in getting it's new rear bumper, back in March by the bodyshop owner who done the work to my car...... he said it might be the last time they use H-F's for part's as they have had to many problem's in the past with Arnold Clark outlet's for sourceing part's.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2006 at 17:45

If they are to continue to be a BMW dealership, they will have to conform to BMW's guidelines - hence why most dealers showrooms look alike?

As for quality, I know that every dealer is assessed by a team of auditors made up of BMW's own people and independant 1st party auditors. If they don't come up to standard, they could lose the franchise?

It will be interesting to see how things go and if there are any changes.






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2006 at 19:13

certainly don`t sound good does it

 

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2006 at 19:57
Well it works out fine Both Arnold and Fairbairns customer service is terrible so they will both go hand in hand.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-May-2006 at 03:48

It may be the first BMW dealership for Arnold but it probably won't be the last.  He managed to oust Cordiners from the Ford market even though they'd had a near 100 year association with the marque.  Thre's still a few independent BM dealers left in Scotland so I hope the DPs have their pension plans in place.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-May-2006 at 05:45

Jim O'Donnell MD BMW GB Ltd went on record last year saying that an unhealthy proportion of BMW dealers were underperforming and that there would be a window of opportunity to sell up as a going concern now or lose their franchise.

That makes two Scottish dealers 'lost' in a few months, David Morrison and Harry Fairbairn. Expect a few more to go to the big groups as these are the guys that on paper can turn the numbers over. The difference in stock levels at the old David Morrison dealer (now Phoenix BMW) means that parking is harder. Don't know why they have a row of 5+ identikit 1 series though in black same wheels etc! 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-May-2006 at 16:41
I have bought several cars form Arnold Clark over the years and found the sales service  good , but it didn't take me long to work out that servicing the car was better done elsewhere
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-May-2006 at 18:06

Arnold Clark & BMW....

BMW might as well distribute through Tesco while they're at it.

Henry Bros & Douglas Park for me!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-May-2006 at 18:16

spotted today in the regional rag....

advert for arnold clark under the tagline "arnolds movie classics" (how twee)

"seatless in seattle" (geddit?  no?  me neither, unless you mispronouce see-at as seat, like what your **** sits on... an unintended double-entendre? )



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-May-2006 at 18:19

even then it still doesn't work!   i'd blame the advertising company but i suppose "you can't make honey out of hens ****e" (local equivalent of the usual "silk purse/sows ear")


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-May-2006 at 18:46

Thank you all for u r replies and thoughts on this subject i have new info on this HARRY FAIRBAIRN have a 90% complete 3 storie pdi and service centre build on the burnfield rd round from the dealership in glasgow thus allowing the service side to be shifted and extending the sales area and also on the reply mentioning PHEONIX BMW  i'am an ex pheonix group employee and they are as bad as arnold clark i walked out of my job in the service team because of frustation of repeatedly seeing the poor aftersales methods bein used which lead to me and the managing director having a heated discution about this very shroud mans methods in structured aftersales if only the customer knew what they were getting for there money well the way i see it chaps is if bmw just want to sell large volumes of car well fine i know 1st hand PHONIX and ARNORLD excel in that sector but in my eye's the selling the product is easy after all it's BMW but the big issue comes to aftersales good luck to BMW because there in for a rough ride with customer complaints and this is not good for BMW !!!!! THANKS AGAIN GUYS !!!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-May-2006 at 20:55
The loss of Fairbairn's can only be a good thing. Even if the dealership was taken over by Aldi as opposed to Arnie, it'd still be better than HF.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-May-2006 at 20:57

Originally posted by bluebro bluebro wrote:

Henry Bros., here i come!

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-May-2006 at 03:27

Every car my parents bought from Arnold Clark has had issues.

My dad used the expression "You've been Arnold Clarked" for years when he came across a situation where someone or something had been done badly/shortchanged/got a crap deal/poor workmanship etc etc.

T'is the end for flagship dealers if that crook has his name associated with BMW.

In a recent newspaper article, it was mentioned how much money he makes and how little he pays his staff.

His kids aren't very nice either, they went to uni with my sister and her mates!

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