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Karlp
Really Senior Member I
Joined: 21-March-2004
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Posted: 20-March-2006 at 08:11 |
IF I was doing all this for a road car I would probably go the MAXX route - because.
1. If anything goes wrong then easy to convert back at the road side.
2. Can easily take off if selling the car.
3. Lots of info and help off other BMW owners.
My car is a track/race car and DTA and other parties are not very helpful unless spending £££. The DTA forum is cr*p so I had no help from them.
Karl
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jpboost
Really Senior Member I
Joined: 24-June-2005
Location: London, GB
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Posted: 20-March-2006 at 08:20 |
karl,
no 3. is the main reason I'd have for going the MAXX route. not just from other owners but from MAXX themselves.
I know a couple of people runnign emerald, (and Dave walker is very helpful).. there's not as much OMEX info out there as I'd like though.
John
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UweM3
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Joined: 11-February-2003
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Posted: 20-March-2006 at 08:27 |
Karlp wrote:
IF I was doing all this for a road car I would probably go the MAXX route - because.
1. If anything goes wrong then easy to convert back at the road side.
2. Can easily take off if selling the car.
3. Lots of info and help off other BMW owners.
My car is a track/race car and DTA and other parties are not very helpful unless spending £££. The DTA forum is cr*p so I had no help from them.
Karl |
Can only second that !
I was thinking for a long time about DTA, LENZ, EMERALD etc etc.
But driving the car on the road and all over Europe, I didn't fancy to rely on samll batch production parts only available from the manufacturer.
The MAXX kit proved it's reliability many times and the support is second to none.
And if you're really paranoid, just keep the AFM and the throttle switch in the boot. (requires some slight modifications of how you wire the MAXX in to make the swap quicker. Even the throttle poti can be used).
Getting a full standalone engine management system up and running requires a little bit more than average DIY skills IMHO. And if you haven't got the right support (mates or tuners) you can get lost quite quickly.
I am more than happy with the MAXX AN. It hasn't let me down for once and the car starts every time. Even with an almost flat battery.
BTW MAXX is now running each of his ECU in the car for two weeks before he ships them to customers. How's that for quality control
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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Karlp
Really Senior Member I
Joined: 21-March-2004
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Posted: 20-March-2006 at 09:02 |
I presume MAXX is from John (Munich Germany) - that alone in my opinion is well worth getting it.
My other dealings with him on engine issues is quick, informative and professional and above all a very trustworthy person.
Karl
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UweM3
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Posted: 20-March-2006 at 10:41 |
MAXX is MAXX, but John is working very close with Martin (who is MAXX ) covering the english speaking market. But Martin speaks quite good english as well.
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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jpboost
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Joined: 24-June-2005
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Posted: 20-March-2006 at 11:25 |
Karlp wrote:
Regarding costs -for a DTA system this is what I spent.
DTA 599
Loom 299
Ignition coil (to go distributorless ) £10 from ebay 50 normally
Trigger wheel 40 (in hindsight too expensive)
Injectors 250 (depends on impedence needed by ECU)
Sensors 60 (need crank trigger and air temp)
TPS - cannot remember but about 30
Mapping 450
all + VAT where applicable.
Karl
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that's quite a list!
The arguments for going for the MAXX seem to be almost overwhelming!
the £450 mapping, how long was that in time?
Cheers,
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Karlp
Really Senior Member I
Joined: 21-March-2004
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Posted: 20-March-2006 at 11:32 |
The £450 was about 6 - 8 hours mapping.
This was quoted beforehand and he also welded in a Lambda probe bung and redid my TPS bracket. (all that was free!!).
It is possible to use the old injectors but (like Emerald) requires a resistor to be placed in the earth line (so I just got new injectors as I wanted reliability).
karl
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215DMX
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Location: Croydon
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Posted: 20-March-2006 at 11:42 |
John, call round i have a couple of books you might want to read.
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jpboost
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Posted: 20-March-2006 at 11:48 |
Karlp wrote:
The £450 was about 6 - 8 hours mapping.
This was quoted beforehand and he also welded in a Lambda probe bung and redid my TPS bracket. (all that was free!!).
It is possible to use the old injectors but (like Emerald) requires a resistor to be placed in the earth line (so I just got new injectors as I wanted reliability).
karl
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Where did you have yours done?
215DMX wrote:
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sounds good. I'll give you a bell later.
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Karlp
Really Senior Member I
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Posted: 20-March-2006 at 11:57 |
I had mine done by lester Owen but the top guy for mapping DTA is
Steve Greenauld in Essex.
this is probably where i wil go next time
Karl
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