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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-March-2006 at 14:49

Originally posted by alpinalover alpinalover wrote:


Secondly, you now say that I'm not talking about
Donnie' car at all (the one on Ebay), but another one!
What car is that supposed to be Drew?? Cos I don't
know. This whole string was a discussion about the
E28 Alpina that was on Ebay (Donnie's/Gavin's car).
What other car could I be referring to?





Bloody hell, you just keep on tripping yourself up!
You mention "Gavin" when I don't think anyone else
here has. Therefore I assume you've seen the Ebay
advert?

If not, how else did you come across the guy's
name? Please do tell!

You know full well that there are two red Alpinas on
Ebay right now - we're not stupid and it's obvious
you're trying to wriggle out of this one.
You just can't go onto a forum and openly state that
someone else's B9 'isn't a real Alpina' when in fact
it's exactly the same as yours. That's just nasty
rumour mongering and it's not fair on the owner.
Again, How would you like if someone did it to you?

For the record, your car was built in July 1982 and left
the factory as a bog standard 528i with a sports
steering wheel and Recaro type seats, was sent to
Alpina in Buchloe for conversion and was then
imported and registered in October 1982. So I've not
seen the records eh? I must be a mindreader then!
WTO 50Y is the RHD B9 built by Sytners, and thus
the first Alpina built there. By the way, it still has
matching engine,head, body, gearbox and diff
numbers.

Sorry, but you started this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-March-2006 at 14:53
Someone please end this! Good grief, how many times do we have to have "No, you're wrong"...

At the risk of getting the moderators involved, can I have a show of hands please? Who cares about this "issue" now? Really?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-March-2006 at 15:06

Hi M3AG, I think the idea of a meet for a pint is a great idea. Wait a few weeks until my B9 is back on the road and I'll bring it along and the infamous letter from Sytners (just to prove it exists).

James if you could make the meet I'd be happy to see you there. You can have a look round my Alpina and generally talk Alpina stuff. Like you I also love the 635 CSi - it's a gorgeous shape and still has that wonderful sharks nose in common with the 5 series. I don't know a lot about 6 series Alpinas, but they did make them. Again several years ago I nearly bought one to go with my B9. It was a White M635 converted to Alpina spec by Sytner (I think as an experiment) but with the full knowledge and support of Alpina GMBH. What was really interesting was it was turbocharged. It was a super quick car and beautiful too look at but at the time was a bit too expensive for me. I still wish I'd bought it though. M3AG is right - not all Alpina owners want to fight with handbags at dawn. I'm a Newbie myself and was just as surprised by the welcome I got as you were.

Drew I'm not going to comment on your last posting other than to point out that I only know of one Alpina on Ebay at present and that that is owned by a guy called Gavin whom I assumed used the name donniembmw in this forum.

If you want to attend a meet I'd be happy to see you there

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-March-2006 at 15:49

Hi Drew, your right, this discussion was about my E28, not about the other E28 B9 that was on sale in Ebay! How this disc got round to arguements over two B9,s indentity crisis I dont know. And why my cars caught up in the crisis ?

I'm just happy that I proved a point upon the approx value of the car, the reason that I put it on Ebay was just to assist in the value of the car, because of the such low mileage and condition. The condition is as I described ( as new) and reckon very rare at that. Some may dissagree, and have mentioned before in this disc, but I would say that Ebay is possibly the best platform to potentially sell a car, because of the worldwide viewing, and that so much detail/pics can be included, compared to Autotrader and others. Had enquires from as far as Hongkong!

Cheers guys

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-March-2006 at 15:58
Hi Alpinalover, got it wrong again! Im Donniembmw, my E28 was on Ebay last week, but the one on ebay just now is someone else!!!!poss called gavin, ****
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-March-2006 at 16:30
Well I think that's all there is to say about it.

The red B9 on Ebay right now (which is NOT, repeat
NOT my car!) is the first RHD B9 3.5 built by Sytners.
If one was built before this in Germany in RHD form
(and I do believe that Alpinalover's car is that car)
then so be it.

As for the 'cosmetic' Alpinas like the B2.8 and the
B3.5 E34, let's not forget they did use the Alpina
suspension, exhaust, wheels, spoilers and other
bits which were developed for a reason. If it wore an
Alpina badge, then it's the real thing. To me a B2.8
E28 is just as worthy of its badge as a B9 3.5.

Especially in Henna red!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-March-2006 at 16:58
Thanks Drew, I would agree, as the B2.8 was as you say, in part a cosmetic variant, but with LSD, sports suspension, recaro, Alpina spoiler, steering wheel  & a few other goodies, from new.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-March-2006 at 17:17
Originally posted by JamesRFortune JamesRFortune wrote:

I have a deep love of the original 6 series especially the 635 Highline. Did Alpina ever make a version? Now that would be worth munching some arm for!


Yep, they did, and I think I know one that may be for sale! However not cheap, but one hundred percent Alpina, and in stunning Alpina blue!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-March-2006 at 05:40

Just a quickie I've got a b2.8 with a hole in the exhaust, one of the front pipes. Had a quick chat with sytners and they're showing standard two versions both off left hand drive 528i cars. And were not sure which one it was, to email the vin to BMW. But you fellas are saying it should be different exhaust just for the alpina.

Has anyone had to order one, and do they know which one it should be

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-March-2006 at 12:41
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I'm pretty sure the downpipes are std BMW, it was originally the system that was to Alpina spec. Get some std downpipes for it and fit them, I'm sure they'll be fine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-March-2006 at 12:46
Would agree with M3AG, the downpipes are the standard ones for the B2.8, although the earlier 528,s (E12) were different.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-March-2006 at 12:20
Yes, but I'd be surprised if it still has the Alpina
exhaust after 20 years - most rotted out about 10-15
years ago!
If you wanted to replace the whole system, ask
around for an M535i system made by Boysen who
made all the original exhausts for Alpina. I think Euro
Car Parts can supply them but if now, ring around a
few exhaust centres. Ask for a Boysen one by name
because they're pretty close to the B9 exhaust. I had
one on my B9 (and the C1 2.3) and it sounded lovely.
A few B9/B10 owners are now buying M5 systems
from BMW (about £450 I think) to replace the original
Alpina systems which at £1000+ are stupidly
overpriced.
Tell me your VIN number and I'll look on the BMW
parts CD and give you a part number.

Another B2.8 eh? There are a couple of these
popping up now. Apart from Donnies there is a red
one festering in Aylesbury that's been sat rotting on
the owners drive for 8-9 years and no, he won't sell it.
It's A162DMO and is Henna red with gold
stripes. What's yours then?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-March-2006 at 20:33
Hi, the E28 528i/ B2.8 exhaust is more  or less the same as the M5 E28 set up, one centre box and rear box. In fact identical other than the bore diameter of the pipies by 2 or 3mm! The 528i system is better due to only having two parts, whereas the 535i has 3 boxes. I reckon the 528i setup sounds much better, as emissions were not a problem at the time, therefore more free flowing, Ive checked against a mates M5, and almost identical!,from the front box to rear. Also a lot cheaper.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-March-2006 at 09:10

Wow!  I need to check in here more often.  Not had such a good read since the last rant I was involved in on another forum

Alpinas are special cars but anyone who knows the history of the company will know that there is a very blurred line between what is and isn't an Alpina.  Ironically, the older 'classics' are more interesting but pre '78 cars never saw Buchloe or Sytners workshops.  Go figure.

I have three cars on the Alpina register sitting on my driveway just now and they represent the full spectrum of what Alpina is about.  Only one is 'genuine' but all three were prepared from new by Alpina or Alpina appointed dealers using Alpina parts.  (I should add that the other two cars were only added to the register at the request of the register admin, although I shouldn't have to!)

Please guys, lets keep it in perspective and don't get personal.  That's what gives owners clubs a bad name and it does get boring after a while.  Remember that arguing on internet forums is like running in the paraplegic olympics...  it doesn't matter if you win, you're still retarded

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-March-2006 at 08:04

Cheers for that.

Ive had a look at the BMW parts system (stuck the vin in) and had a look at the car and am happy which one it should be.The middle/end bit has been done its just the front that bit from the manifold that needs changing.

Thanks again everyone you've saved much head scratching

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