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Matt T 
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 Topic: Supersprint Race system or not....
Posted: 10-February-2006 at 12:54 |
I cant decide! Its probably the best system out there judging by previous posts, but £150 more than Milltek and Supersprint Road version and 10times louder by all accounts! Although the race system with carbon airbox would sound 
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trackM3
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Posted: 10-February-2006 at 12:56 |
 Matt T wrote:
I cant decide! Its probably the best system out there judging by previous posts, but £150 more than Milltek and Supersprint Road version and 10times louder by all accounts!
Although the race system with carbon airbox would sound
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would sound to noisy for all but a few trackdays ????
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Oops i went and got an E36 !
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Matt T
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Posted: 10-February-2006 at 13:01 |
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Did barefoot ever have a problem with his? Read a previous post and he seemed to think it would be ok on track days. I definately dont want it if it will restrict which trackdays i can go on.
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215m3
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Posted: 10-February-2006 at 13:52 |
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Kev did have a problem, but was never a noise issue. he'll fill you in.
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barefoot
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Posted: 10-February-2006 at 17:09 |
Only track days that I have done have been at Oulton Park where I have had no problems with noise testing. The exhaust blew a hole while at Oulton as in the picture below. I emailed the importers with a couple of pictures they replied saying the factory in Italy would send out a new one.
It took several weeks before it arrived meanwhile I had the original repaired which is still on the car so the new one is still in its packaging in my garage! This might have been a one off but I do rate the exhaust's sound as well as performance.
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Jake
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Posted: 10-February-2006 at 18:23 |
There seems to be *some* history with the SS Race system failing; usually at the hanger welds. I have a very early version of this system still new and uninstalled. Rumor has it the early version had thinner walled tubing and they uprated it with thicker material later on.
I'm still a bit undecided on what to do with mine. I'd like to reinforce it before installing it but then I assume this will void the warrenty. I'm fairly confident that it will fail, the question is when. Maybe on the way to work someday, or how about at the Ring? If I don't reinforce it I feel like I have to carry a spare. Silly.
I would really like to replace it with a BTB system. I've held a new Grp N system (as they call it) and it is VERY nice, very light weight. Sound is not too loud either. Sure would be cool to do a dyno shoot out between these two exhausts. 
Take care,
Jake
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215m3
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Posted: 11-February-2006 at 02:48 |
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Jake
If SS knew their exhaust was failing in the places you mentioned and have now started to use thicker wallings etc, could you not contact them and mention you have an older unused exhaust, with warranty, and ask if you could strengthen it in the areas they have improved on? So it does not fail and leave you high and dry somewhere.
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UweM3
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Posted: 11-February-2006 at 07:16 |
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Jake I can have a look at it and see if we can do something.
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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Jake
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Posted: 11-February-2006 at 10:28 |
Hi Toby,
That's what I was thinking about doing. I just need to get off my butt and contact Supersprint. I'm a ways off from installing it so it's not high on the priority list yet.
Uwe,
You are the man!  I'd really appreciate some help when the time comes. It may be next winter though.
Cheers,
Jake
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215DMX
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Posted: 11-February-2006 at 12:30 |
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I had my Miltek let go recently two splits in the metal
wear the pipe joins the silencer. Phoned Miltek and
they sent a new part out the next day, just finished
fitting it.
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Matt T
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Posted: 11-February-2006 at 13:47 |
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Milltek are another on the list but ive heard stories about those failing too? Although nothing but praise about their after sales service.
How much is the BTB system? A lot is it not? Dont want to spend much more than £500 really.
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kevin
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Posted: 11-February-2006 at 13:50 |
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Matt,
you can get a Milltek for £495, if you have read the other treads then
you will know I'm positive about them despite my car sounding like a
Massey Ferguson at the 'ring last June......
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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible
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BMG M3
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Posted: 11-February-2006 at 14:08 |
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The Miltek centre section seems prone to split the centre box on the first version.They do offer a no quibble replacement of a new and improved design though.Ask me how I know.....
www.motorsportworld.co.uk have the Miltek for £439.92 inc VAT,plus Delivery £14.10 .Moseley Motorsport want £495+VAT+delivery .Oh dear.......
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texas2201
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Posted: 11-February-2006 at 14:22 |
I had a SS one fitted about 2 years ago by Lifetime near Bristol - tuned to 95.6Db sounds lovely no problems whatsever
about 5 trips to the Ring and dozens of trackdays
Martin
 
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Martin - www.iconicmotorcars.co.uk
E30 M3 now sold :-(/Lotus Elan SE Turbo/Lotus Excel SE/Lotus Excel SA/Audi A8 - now Tow Barge - Quattro 4.2
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Jake
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Posted: 11-February-2006 at 14:56 |
I can't for the life of me remember what those BTB kits go for.
Jake
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Matt T
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Posted: 11-February-2006 at 14:59 |
I think i had a look on the site last night, and quickly closed the browser when i saw the price!  You would think that selling a system for half a grand it would at least be reliable and good quality. Are there any other decent centre sections? Preferably SS.
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kevin
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Posted: 11-February-2006 at 15:04 |
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Matt
Milltek have completely reworked the box and they are not aware of any
issues since....to their credit they sorted any problems without
hesitation.
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Kevin
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215DMX
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Posted: 12-February-2006 at 05:01 |
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Kevin /Brian to let you know mine was the NEW
version, not the older one. The actual metal had split
originally thought it was the weld but once oit was off
the car you could see the splits. I have grounded a
few times quite how much this would have to do with
it I don't know.
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kevin
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Posted: 12-February-2006 at 05:06 |
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Dave,
Which silencer was it 1st or 2nd and did you take any photos of the split?
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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible
'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
’95 E34 M5
’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto)
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piers66
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Posted: 12-February-2006 at 07:28 |
From postings in the States it seems the early race Supersprint systems were almost bound to fail at hanger - unless car only used for trackwork would not recommend race system.
My experience of Miltek is that centre box is too low which means it will ground on speed humps/ yumpy roads and leads to premature failure (mine's been welded once). Maybe design has been modified since?
What about systems advertised on s14.de?
I'd probably revert to OEM next time...
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piers66
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Supersprint Race system or not....