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Nick @ TBMW 
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 Posted: 01-March-2006 at 08:47 |
Piper or Kent?
I know they seem to give good results on the 'lesser' manufacturers, but on more demanding machinery like BMW/Honda engines...? Not so sure, or at least I don't have enough info about them.
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215DMX
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Posted: 01-March-2006 at 08:58 |
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Uwe, i think you might be thinking of CATCAMS, they do offer cam pairs for around that. I haven't seen anywhere any details or dyno results for anything other than race spec engines. You can also 'un pair' whats on the website and get 283/293 as apposed to the listed 293/293 for example
www.catcams.be
http://www.catcams.co.uk/
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UweM3
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Posted: 01-March-2006 at 09:15 |
 215DMX wrote:
Uwe, i think you might be thinking of CATCAMS, they do offer cam pairs for around that. I haven't seen anywhere any details or dyno results for anything other than race spec engines. You can also 'un pair' whats on the website and get 283/293 as apposed to the listed 293/293 for example
www.catcams.be
http://www.catcams.co.uk/ |
there's a guy on S14.net reporting good about them. I think he's from Netherlands
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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stevesingo
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 05:19 |
Nick @ TBMW wrote:
Milltek is going on Thursday morning. |
And today is friday 
So what's the news?
Steve
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Nick @ TBMW
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 05:25 |
Hmmm... should I tell or not 
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stevesingo
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 05:31 |
Remember....
we know where you live 
Steve
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Nick @ TBMW
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 05:33 |
Yep, but remember to leave the crates of beer round the back this time 
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stevesingo
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 05:38 |
So......
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petesm3
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 05:43 |
Come on Nick, spill the beans. 
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stevesingo
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 05:45 |
Yeah,
Lets gang up on him 
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Nick @ TBMW
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 05:52 |
Ok, I'll stop being mean...
Milltek made almost identical flywheel power to standard but recoreded a slightly lower wheel power figure.
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stevesingo
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 05:56 |
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Nick,
Any graph with all three on?
Steve
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stevesingo
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 06:08 |
Nick @ TBMW wrote:
Milltek made almost identical flywheel power to standard but recoreded a slightly lower wheel power figure. |
That may be because the whell figures are not corrected for tempreture and barometric pressure.
Steve
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UweM3
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 06:30 |
Nick @ TBMW wrote:
Ok, I'll stop being mean...
Milltek made almost identical flywheel power to standard but recoreded a slightly lower wheel power figure. |
....8bhp more than the stock restrictive exhaust system.
I always thought that is a cat against noncat figure.
Anyway, MILTEK is still a good exhaust. Sound and pricewise.
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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215DMX
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 08:09 |
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Dosen't suprise me if the Miltek didn't produce more power, the bore only
allows for 5-6% increase in flow. I think the std pipe is twin 45mm, whats
the Supersprint twin 50mm? if so thats around 25% increase in flow.
But for the price and its SS it's not a bad system, they even replaced my
whole centre section free of charge delivered 3 days after a phone call.
It's always nice to see qualified dyno results though.
Nick, what did the lads at Powersation have to say?
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Nick @ TBMW
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 10:07 |
Don't get me wrong, the Milltek is a good system and in many ways
better than the Supersprint. I will clarify all the details in the
feature though.
Powerstation explained that the Milltek was previously the only exhaust
they found that made power on their test M3 (same derivative as ours)
whereas the rest lost power. Also the other systems were either too
noisy, not s/s, bad fitting etc etc. They wanted to create the perfect
exhaust, which they've probably achieved.
But it would appear that they didn't test the Supersprint Race system
in their lineup and it is now the daddy (for want of a better word)
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UweM3
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 10:24 |
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I think Nick is right by saying the MILTEK is the perfect exhaust system for an everyday M3. Doesn't LOOSE power, is SS and a very good price. I wish it would be a twin pipe layout (only for ground clearance issues) but I can imagine this could never be done for the price they're selling it!
I would buy one if I would be shopping for an aftermarket exhaust.
The Supersprint may give more power, but not everyone will accept the increase in noise just for a few more horses. BTW how much is a full Supersprint system???
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Nick @ TBMW
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 10:53 |
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IIRC it's about £100 dearer Uwe.
Edited by Nick @ TBMW
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UweM3
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 15:47 |
Nick @ TBMW wrote:
IIRC it's about £100 dearer Uwe.
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is that all? Are you sure?
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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Simon325i sport
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Posted: 03-March-2006 at 16:12 |
UweM3 wrote:
Nick @ TBMW wrote:
IIRC it's about £100 dearer Uwe.
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is that all? Are you sure? |
I paid roughly £570 for mine posted, full race S/S system.
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Supersprint Race system or not....