White Van Man gets ����Millions

One of the Most incompetant of many within the politbureau, A.Darling-- has decided that your taxpayers money, will be spent giving 200,000 White Van drivers "Driving Lessons" obviously they MUST be the reason for our KSI stats.Instead of implementing a Complete NEW driving Test for the 21st century which would improve safety--the DFT wants to continue its disaster after disaster, in the hope that nobody notices the failures, and the ������� continue to roll into the Govt.Slime account

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4646008.stm

livvy wrote: So enforcemnts a bad idea & now education is too

No livvy, selective education is a bad idea. Plus, this smacks of discrimination, or have you left your sandals at home today?


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Why is selective education bad ?
This is not forced education, it's voluntary.

There was an alarming rise in TWMV deaths on our roads & to counter this the bikesafe program was set up. Educating & developing basic skilks of just motorcyclists in relation to that problem. This wasn't forced education, it was offered (at a cost to riders) if they wanted to take it up. Many did & the response from those who did was very positive.

The stats show business users are a problematic area in relation to risk, so an initiative is set up to offer further training (voluntarily) to a sub set of that group as a trial. If it reaps positive benefits it can/may be extended to others.

I really don't see how offering (not forcing) education to a group that are shown to be at higher risk of collisions is a negative thing.



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You lot had better watch out, I'm going to be White Van man tommorrow.. When I get behind the wheel of that Trannie small children are dragged off the streets - people throw themselves into bushes..

I can agree that for new drivers who have just passed their test in Micra or Fiesta - getting behind the wheel of a van can be daunting, most if the time there is no rear view center mirror due to solid rear doors and you have to watch your width/length particularly when reversing. Other than that, they are easy to drive - more car like than van like.

One trouble is that people discriminate aganst van drivers (Silver now, White is last years colour darling), cars have to get in front of you for fear of being held up etc. Van drivers get wound up and aggressive due to the other morons on the road - cutting them up, undertaking, being pulled out on from roundabouts - junctions etc.

The amount of bad driving I've seen especialy and mostly in a morning is unbelievable. The amount of times I've wished for a traffic cops to be pressent at that time is quite often. You can't just blame 'White Van Man', other motorists are a big causation factor in the equation.

livvy wrote: Why is selective education bad ?

Because we're all road users. Everybody should be given the same opportunities.

livvy wrote: It's about creating a level playing field by reducing risk for thsoe at greater risk.

Ah, so you DIDN'T leave your sandals at home then. Positive discrimination ROCKS!

livvy wrote: It's positive action, not positive discrimination.

So I can go and sign up for this free education, can I?

If it'll improve the manners and abilities of the most despised group on our roads, won't it benefit everyone?

If that are at higher risk on our roads they are. They are more vulnerable.

dutch wrote: [QUOTE=livvy] So bikesafe was wrong then & ill conceived ? its not ill conceived just ill informed.

In what way ?