WARNING! Unmarked Subaru on M23

livvy wrote: You pay for the Police service like we all do, because you have no choice, it comes from taxes that you can't legally evade. We have no choice in the matter.

Yeah shame that isn't it!. It's also a shame that we're not listened to with respect to what the money's spent on or consulted on the fines / discipline dished out to police staff getting away with things that normal members of the public wouldn't.

Is it any wonder that the police force is held in such low regard?

If I buy a dishwasher and it's rubbish, I take it back and complain as I've spent money and not got the standard of service expected. Try to complain about the value for money we get on wasted tax and it constantly falls on deaf ears.

livvy wrote: 1. How have you personally tried to influence these things ? 2. Firstly *we* elect the government that decides a great deal of what the Police can or can't do. The government *we* elect have the power to change the laws we have to live under & the laws/regulations that Police have to operate under. The governments *we* elect control how much money the Police are given from *our* taxes. 3. If you want to be heard you have to take part, it's no good complaining nobody listens to you if you aren't prepared to make the effort to be heard.

1. Oh I have and have NOT been listened to re the way people drive in the country lane that i live in. I requested that as it was a residential area with young children present, they may wish to patrol it once in a while. I may as well have been speaking to an alien. Again when things stragely go missing at night and the Police don't want to know then either. AND when my wifes debit card got cloned and we even had the address the goods were delivered to when the goods were niether bought nor paid for by us.

2. Don't get me going on this one! YOU may have elected this damn government but I can sleep very well at night knowing I had bugger all to do with putting that idiot Blair in control

3. See no.1. I've tried. But still I see them playing underhanded cards in unmarked Subarus making easy money. When the going gets tough, where are they then? When they get an enquiry..........do i get a satisfactory response? No. 

I don't think this thread is going anywhere. The next time I see an unmarked car I will post again the make and area it was in. As your sig says, you have your views, as I and many others on here, have ours.

bloody hell... That was a novel to work through!

A guy I know had a fella in his rear view mirror one night flashing him for ages and generally hassling him even though there was plenty of room to pass. Of course, seeing as he had his brand new Clio 172 which were just out at the time, after a mile he decided the best way to deal with the situation was to increase speed to around 75-80mph, & then when the car behind persisted with the tailing and flashing he went up to 125mph and left the car for dead. Alas, it was an unmarked Mondeo and they pulled him further down the road and told him they'd see him in court and a ban was on the way. (In the end he got a fine & endorsment)

Same road, another mate in a 106 Rallye, and he blasted past a bunch of cars when the road split into 2 lanes for a long uphill stretch. Kept it lit for a good while around 100mph+. Several miles later when he hit the suburbs and the traffic caught up, a Corolla behind threw on lights, pulled him in, and said "I didn't know what's under the bonnet of that car, but you'd want to calm it down a bit".

At the end of the day, there is a speed limit, it is law, and if you want to break it, ya have to accept consequences. Tis simple really. Police officers are human, just like the rest of us. I'd like to see us subjected to the same scrutiny in every nuance of our job from technical knowledge, people skills, dealing with Joe Public with what are contentious issues etc. It wouldn't be long before the cracks would emerge in our execution on occasion, me thinks.

As an enthusiast who likes to explore and enjoy the limits of his car, speed limits suck. But there are so many lousy drivers and cars out there too, thank God there is some formal limit to the speed they can legitimately carry. I don't want to be on a single lane road with and 80mph limit & some ropey Cavalier behind driven by a chain-smoking mother of 8 who is trying to swing a bag of oranges to beat her eldest with, while simultaneously texting on a Burberry-covered phone to her jailed boyfriend that she's got his little bag of whizz for their next conjugal visit. Keeping everything at 50 is just fine, thanks.