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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-January-2006 at 17:55

OK,

We now have this day confirmed and Booked. I have now paid a sizable deposit

I have 10 cars confirmed 8 deposits paid and awaiting 2 checks.

I have 5 spaces left

Total BMW will almost certainly be in attendance to cover the event as i now have a guaranteed 10 cars.

See some of you there soon.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10-January-2006 at 06:28
Oi!

That's a poor excuse! The oil drip is either a cam
cover gasket, or more likely a leaking oil pressure
switch. The rear exhaust can be successfully
bodged using 'red welding', fibreglass filler used for
car bodywork. It sets rock hard and resists exhaust
heat in centre boxes, never mind the (cooler) rear
box. I rebuilt an E23 rear box with this stuff and it
lasted almost 18 months........

Get it on the rollers! It'd be nice to see it, love the
colour and the 14 inch Mahle rims - classic stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-January-2006 at 15:20

Originally posted by Horsetan Horsetan wrote:

Mine's a four-speed auto, James, not a *snif* three-speed....

Oi!

My exhuast (blowing back box) and my oil drip (back of the head) won't be fixed in time, so no high rev runs for me - but I might make it as a spectator.

*edit* by the way James, where do I send my fiver for the coupe register?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09-January-2006 at 03:25

James,

I'll try to come along too - not sure in which car, but it will only be as a spectator, as I don't have an E24, although the way things are going I wouldn't put it past me (te he!).

Hope to see you there.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-January-2006 at 12:40

I think the normal fee is £120 an hour or around £400 for the day. Generally rollers are quite pricey, but getting a load of cars down makes things a lot cheaper. Tells you less, but you gets what you pay for in life.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-January-2006 at 10:32
Originally posted by Sohlman Sohlman wrote:

Theoretically yes, but if the kick down button is pressed the car will want to move down a gear


Does the kick down still operate in 3-2-1 mode? I must go & check! I thought the whole point of this mode was that it gave total manual lock for the gear selected.

Just a shame it's a 560 mile round trip for me   I would have loved to come. Maybe next time I'm down in Windsor . . .

How much do they charge normally?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-January-2006 at 08:17
SMG is a different kettle of fish altogether as are
modern BMW's with traction control - because the
front wheels are stationary and the rear ones are
going round, the ABS sensors pick up on this and
retard the timing, a by product of ASC+T as well as
the current system. That's probably why the SMG
system was having trouble.

As for disconnecting the ECU and someone in the
engine bay on the throttle, well that's just madness.
We (well, my old Fella) ran a dyno for almost 20
years, developed the system that BMW(GB) use at
Bracknell and did countless dyno runs on Automatic
BMW's and never had to do any of that. Indeed, I can
remember our dyno being calibrated and checked
using a B plate 525i Automatic! Just leave it in third
gear of as Andy so rightly said, switch it into 3-2-1.

£40 for three runs is cheap enough though. It's worth
doing because the dyno operator can look at things
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-January-2006 at 07:38
Theoretically yes, but if the kick down button is pressed the car will want to move down a gear and this is not what you want on the rollers as the figures will go all over the place.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-January-2006 at 06:59
Originally posted by Drew540i Drew540i wrote:


Not really - just run it up in third gear or switch it to 'S'.

It should be stressed that automatics
always give a vastly inflated power figure due to the
lack of engine braking in an Auto.


Surely just switching to the 3-2-1 setting will lock the car in whichever gear & prevent kickdown taking place. As the transmission also has lockup in 3rd there will be engine braking - that's one of the things it's there for.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-January-2006 at 06:38
What they need to do with the auto is to make it run in one gear for the entire duration of the run without changing down. When i spoke to them about this they said that they have been able to do a run with some cars, whilst others always try to kick down. It's with these cars that they disonect the ECU to the auto or deactivate the kick down so that a complete runs can be made. It also usually involves a second engineer hanging into the engine bay operating the throttle. I have seen then having all sorts of fun and games trying to get a run out of an E46 M3 with the SMG and traction as they could not get a run more than 250bhp because the traction thought the car was not moving and would cut power. Eventually they managed to deactivate the traction so that a run could be done. The owner was a little dissapointed mind you with the eventual figure of 302bhp as the car had only done 10K and had been remapped.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-January-2006 at 20:17
Originally posted by Sohlman Sohlman wrote:

Auto's take a lot longer as the
kick down has to be deactivated.


Not really - just run it up in third gear or switch it to 'S'.
Also switchable autos have no kickdown cable to
disconnect! It should be stressed that automatics
always give a vastly inflated power figure due to the
lack of engine braking in an Auto. I don't know what
dyno and power plot system G Force have though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-January-2006 at 16:11

Originally posted by 3.0csl 3.0csl wrote:

Sure why not Ivan, good idea.

Only started her for the first time in 4 months yesterday. Keen to take the injectors out and have them cleaned first.

Don't expect my car to be spotless. It spends much of its time at the stables, so lots of mud streaks, and an interior that smells of the stable.....mmmmmm.....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-January-2006 at 15:00
Sure why not Ivan, good idea.

Only started her for the first time in 4 months yesterday. Keen to take the injectors out and have them cleaned first.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-January-2006 at 13:41
Originally posted by 3.0csl 3.0csl wrote:

James, I'm in, where do we send a cheque to?

M635csi - standard.

 

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Maybe we could travel up in tandem from Barnet, Rohan?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-January-2006 at 11:47

James, I'm in, where do we send a cheque to?

M635csi - standard.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-January-2006 at 08:41
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Sorry Ivan. My mistake. IVAN'S CAR IS A 4 SPEED....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-January-2006 at 08:32

Sorry Ivan. My mistake. IVAN'S CAR IS A 4 SPEED

The cost all in is £40 per car. For this you will get 30 - 40 mins on a rolling road with the engineer. The car will most likely get 2-3 runs untill an accurate figure has been achieved. Auto's take a lot longer as the kick down has to be deactivated.

The water levels, oil levels are checked before the car goes on. As are the tyre pressures to ensure they are set at the correct level as this can affect readings. If the engineer has any doubts about the car he won't let it on as he does not want a car going bang on his roller.

At the end of the day you will get a coputer print out detailing power at the wheels, estimated power at the flywheel, torque at fly and wheels and lamda readings throughout the runs.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-January-2006 at 06:42
Mine's a four-speed auto, James, not a *snif* three-speed....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-January-2006 at 20:00
What's the cost of this self-inflicted pain James?

I'm interested but being at the other end of the country . . .

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-January-2006 at 19:35
Sounds wild. Must admit makes me think of Dr Frankenstein! Not in a bad way, perhaps. But still feeling I want to shout out "It's Alive! It's Alive!"
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