E36 M3 officially not really an M-car

I think that the only Evos that made 321bhp were tested running 100 Octane and from what I've read very few in standard form on standard fuel hit the 321.

I have also had a 328 and to be honest the Evo only comes into its own at 90-100+mph.  As an everyday driver I found the 328 just as much fun.  Tracked both of them also, and while the M had much better balance and poise (non sport 328) due to the suspension and the LSD on a tight and twisty circuit there's not a lot between them.

I did enjoy the E36 Evo but not enough to make me keep it as I needed it to be an everyday driver and to set it up properly for track use would have cost a fair bit and rendered it useless for the road.

I'm afraid my next M if I get around to it will be an E30 or else I'll be in looking in the Caterham or 968CS bracket for as a track machine.

One point that was mentioned above was the 0-60 time 5.4, the 328 with 128bhp less was tested around 6.5 at the same time????????  While at the top end, the EVO would leave the 328 for dead, on the track through the bends where 2 / 3 gear is used that top end is useless.

Just my 2c worth - sorry for upsetting anyone

mikee wrote: Jonners wrote: ...but don't agree that the e36 engine was genuine m power - just a tweeked up standard engine if you ask me... how very dare you! the 3.2 evo engine is fantastic. few problems with vanos but come on. its essentially half of the engine fitted to a mclaren f1! 321 hp from a 3.2 ten years ago was phenomenal. the 46 m3 only produces 343 hp and that was developed a few years later. granted its not great round town but get it up over 5000rpm and its great. especially coupled with the smg 'box. [/ P]

Do any of them actually produce 321 Bhp?

BREEZE,

my how the tables have turned!!.........

come on e30 boys what you say to that (quite alot of boring statistics i'd imagine)

Pooky wrote: kevin wrote: Maybe we should get Tiff to time one around anglesey and see if that provokes a similar reaction to the hysterics regarding the E30 M3  I doubt it. We tend not to be quite so insecure about it all.....the E30 is the only........snore.........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

How dare you pooky!

I'll have you know that the e30 M3 was the most successful touring car of the 1960's!

Wait... what was that? Slower on track than a new fiesta?!?

kevin wrote: Maybe we should get Tiff to time one around anglesey and see if that provokes a similar reaction to the hysterics regarding the E30 M3

I doubt it. We tend not to be quite so insecure about it all.....the E30 is the only........snore.........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........

...this topic is surprisingly quiet......guess the e36 attracts a more mature owner........

......only joking...... how's the ring these days......

breeze wrote: UweM3 wrote: breeze wrote: Now the 3.2 evo on the other hand was every bit a real M3... I am not question this, but can you explain why please? That was sarcasm Uwe!! In all seriousness, I don't really get hung up on whether it is a 'real' M3 or not.

I was serious about that!
I thought there are some information I have missed.

Nick wrote: I got an M3 Power for Christmas.. it was a Gillette razor and it included a Duracell M3 battery... it would seem BMW are not the only ones that use our famous moniker to increase desireability.

Yeah me too. Isn't much fun on track, overweight and heavy on consumables and has a tendency to understeer around my mouth when shaving...

I got an M3 Power for Christmas.. it was a Gillette razor and it included a Duracell M3 battery... it would seem BMW are not the only ones that use our famous moniker to increase desireability.

bhp555 wrote: Alfa's new boss, Karl-Heinz Kalbfell (ex-BMW) has rapidly adopted Italian style, turning up late to preside over the unveiling of the Brera and 159, and then talking in parables. Hmmm, is this the very same man........ quote taken from 2005 Geneva motorshow.......................

Please remove your comments, you're undermining my topic...

John