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bmwcrazy
Really Senior Member II
1995 M5,1995 318ISE,1997 325
Joined: 24-October-2005
Location: (glasgow the wee apple) big dazz
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Points: 661
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Posted: 08-January-2006 at 17:13 |
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BM Fan
Bavarian-Board Contributor
Joined: 19-January-2004
Location: Ireland
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Points: 1054
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Posted: 08-January-2006 at 17:04 |
I think that the only Evos that made 321bhp were tested running 100
Octane and from what I've read very few in standard form on standard
fuel hit the 321.
I have also had a 328 and to be honest the Evo only comes into its own
at 90-100+mph. As an everyday driver I found the 328 just as much
fun. Tracked both of them also, and while the M had much better
balance and poise (non sport 328) due to the suspension and the LSD on
a tight and twisty circuit there's not a lot between them.
I did enjoy the E36 Evo but not enough to make me keep it as I needed
it to be an everyday driver and to set it up properly for track use
would have cost a fair bit and rendered it useless for the road.
I'm afraid my next M if I get around to it will be an E30 or else I'll
be in looking in the Caterham or 968CS bracket for as a track machine.
One point that was mentioned above was the 0-60 time 5.4, the 328 with
128bhp less was tested around 6.5 at the same time???????? While
at the top end, the EVO would leave the 328 for dead, on the track
through the bends where 2 / 3 gear is used that top end is useless.
Just my 2c worth - sorry for upsetting anyone
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Martin
In BMW exile at the moment (Shame on me for lurking!!!)
Previous Models
2001 E39 520i Auto
1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual
1996 E36 328i Coupe
1997 E36 318i Conv
1992 E36 316i Sln
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mikee
Senior Member I
Joined: 12-February-2005
Location: lundun
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Points: 107
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Posted: 08-January-2006 at 12:01 |
yes. quite a few. never had mine dynod but im sure there are plenty of people on here that have. having driven both an m3 and a 328i sport (the nearest non m-power car to an m3), i can say hands down that it is not just a 'tweeked' engine, considering there is only 400cc difference in the displacement. i can understand some people knocking the visual outlook of the e36 m3, but for some of us it works.
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m3 evo convertible
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Dannyboy
Really Senior Member I
Joined: 24-August-2005
Location: Hunstanton
Status: Offline
Points: 301
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Posted: 08-January-2006 at 10:15 |
mikee wrote:
Jonners wrote:
...but don't agree that the e36
engine was genuine m power - just a tweeked up standard engine if you
ask me... |
how very dare you!
the 3.2 evo engine is fantastic. few problems with vanos but come on.
its essentially half of the engine fitted to a mclaren f1! 321 hp from a 3.2
ten years ago was phenomenal. the 46 m3 only produces 343 hp and that
was developed a few years later. granted its not great round town but get
it up over 5000rpm and its great. especially coupled with the smg 'box. [/
P]
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Do any of them actually produce 321 Bhp?
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1992 clio 1.8 16V Good
1998 Subaru Impreza Turbo Terzo Great
1987 M3 Diamond Black Awesome (Now awesomer with Billys & Eibach)
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andyclient
Really Senior Member II
Joined: 26-October-2004
Location: suffolk
Status: Offline
Points: 648
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Posted: 08-January-2006 at 08:03 |
playo wrote:
BREEZE,
my how the tables have turned!!.........
come on e30 boys what you say to that (quite alot of boring statistics i'd imagine)
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lol
Andy
Edited by andyclient
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01 E46 320d Touring
88 E30 M3 Sadly Gone
93 E36 325 TD Gone but still going
87 E30 Hartge 325 (gone but not forgotten)
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playo
Senior Member I
Joined: 18-October-2005
Location: south wales
Status: Offline
Points: 138
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Posted: 08-January-2006 at 03:23 |
BREEZE,
my how the tables have turned!!.........
come on e30 boys what you say to that (quite alot of boring statistics i'd imagine)
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'98 M3 evo conv'-Sold
'91 E30 M3'
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kevin
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Joined: 29-November-2002
Location: Camberley, Surrey
Status: Offline
Points: 3189
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Posted: 05-January-2006 at 17:15 |
1960's ...cheek..... late 80's and early 90's
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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible
'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
’95 E34 M5
’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto)
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breeze
Senior Member I
Joined: 07-October-2004
Status: Offline
Points: 106
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Posted: 05-January-2006 at 17:10 |
Pooky wrote:
kevin wrote:
Maybe we should get Tiff to time one around anglesey and see if that provokes a similar reaction to the hysterics regarding the E30 M3 |
I doubt it. We tend not to be quite so insecure about it all.....the E30 is the only........snore.........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........
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How dare you pooky!
I'll have you know that the e30 M3 was the most successful touring car of the 1960's!
Wait... what was that? Slower on track than a new fiesta?!?
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E36 M3 Evolution
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kevin
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Posted: 05-January-2006 at 17:10 |
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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible
'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
’95 E34 M5
’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto)
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Pooky
Senior Member II
Joined: 23-May-2005
Location: Coventry
Status: Offline
Points: 205
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Posted: 05-January-2006 at 16:18 |
kevin wrote:
Maybe we should get Tiff to time one around anglesey and see if that provokes a similar reaction to the hysterics regarding the E30 M3 |
I doubt it. We tend not to be quite so insecure about it all.....the E30 is the only........snore.........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........
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kevin
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Joined: 29-November-2002
Location: Camberley, Surrey
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Posted: 05-January-2006 at 15:18 |
Maybe we should get Tiff to time one around anglesey and see if that
provokes a similar reaction to the hysterics regarding the E30 M3
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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible
'08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge)
’95 E34 M5
’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto)
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bhp555
Senior Member II
Joined: 16-February-2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 176
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Posted: 05-January-2006 at 14:38 |
...this topic is surprisingly quiet......guess the e36 attracts a more mature owner........
......only joking...... how's the ring these days......
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mikee
Senior Member I
Joined: 12-February-2005
Location: lundun
Status: Offline
Points: 107
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Posted: 04-January-2006 at 13:49 |
Jonners wrote:
...but don't agree that the e36 engine was genuine m power - just a tweeked up standard engine if you ask me... |
how very dare you!
the 3.2 evo engine is fantastic. few problems with vanos but come on. its essentially half of the engine fitted to a mclaren f1! 321 hp from a 3.2 ten years ago was phenomenal. the 46 m3 only produces 343 hp and that was developed a few years later. granted its not great round town but get it up over 5000rpm and its great. especially coupled with the smg 'box.
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m3 evo convertible
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UweM3
Moderator Group
Joined: 11-February-2003
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 5445
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Posted: 03-January-2006 at 06:23 |
breeze wrote:
UweM3 wrote:
breeze wrote:
Now the 3.2 evo on the other hand was every bit a real M3...
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That was sarcasm Uwe!!
In all seriousness, I don't really get hung up on whether it is a 'real' M3 or not. |
I was serious about that!
I thought there are some information I have missed.
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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Jonners
Really Senior Member II
Joined: 23-September-2003
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Points: 601
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Posted: 03-January-2006 at 05:23 |
smoke and mirrors on this one - can't tell who's being serious...
...but don't agree that the e36 engine was genuine m power - just a tweeked up standard engine if you ask me...
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breeze
Senior Member I
Joined: 07-October-2004
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Points: 106
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Posted: 02-January-2006 at 14:35 |
Nick wrote:
I got an M3 Power for Christmas.. it was a Gillette razor and it included a Duracell M3 battery... it would seem BMW are not the only ones that use our famous moniker to increase desireability. |
Yeah me too. Isn't much fun on track, overweight and heavy on consumables and has a tendency to understeer around my mouth when shaving...
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E36 M3 Evolution
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breeze
Senior Member I
Joined: 07-October-2004
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Posted: 02-January-2006 at 14:33 |
UweM3 wrote:
breeze wrote:
Now the 3.2 evo on the other hand was every bit a real M3...
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I am not question this, but can you explain why please? |
That was sarcasm Uwe!!
In all seriousness, I don't really get hung up on whether it is a 'real' M3 or not.
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E36 M3 Evolution
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Nick
Bavarian-Board Contributor
BMWCC Area Organiser Yorks & Humber
Joined: 21-October-2002
Location: God’s own county... Yorkshire
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Points: 1319
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Posted: 02-January-2006 at 08:15 |
I got an M3 Power for Christmas.. it was a Gillette razor and it included a Duracell M3 battery... it would seem BMW are not the only ones that use our famous moniker to increase desireability.
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BMG M3
Really Senior Member II
Joined: 26-April-2003
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 1594
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Posted: 02-January-2006 at 05:41 |
If you thought he was being rude about the Euro spec M3 ,which at least had a decent M Power engine, then what do you think he would make of the US spec car!
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M3DTM
Senior Member II
Joined: 04-July-2005
Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: 02-January-2006 at 03:58 |
bhp555 wrote:
Alfa's new boss, Karl-Heinz Kalbfell (ex-BMW) has rapidly adopted Italian style, turning up late to preside over the unveiling of the Brera and 159, and then talking in parables. Hmmm, is this the very same man........ quote taken from 2005 Geneva motorshow....................... |
Please remove your comments, you're undermining my topic...
John
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A properly sorted E30 M3 is still 'King of the Ring'
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