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Points: 123 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2005 at 11:51

It certainly was a popular topic... I'm glad I bit my lip now as it all worked out at the end of the day.  Beers all round .

But an Anglesey meet could be fun and it would make a great convoy on the way there and back!

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I can see a lot of damaged E30 M3'S coming up for sale
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Well we could do with some spare parts for ours
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Points: 3450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2005 at 12:18
i'd take a trip over if something was organised - going mad to do a uk track day and meet some of you lot!!
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Points: 549 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2005 at 12:20

Originally posted by Nick @ TBMW Nick @ TBMW wrote:

Well we could do with some spare parts for ours
Nick good point, now i can see why you have interest in this event , I will hold back on ordering my parts.

Let me know when it is, just so i can hold out the order....
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I'm not that transparent am I
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Points: 549 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2005 at 12:27
Originally posted by Nick @ TBMW Nick @ TBMW wrote:

I'm not that transparent am I
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Points: 171 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2005 at 12:29

Would be nice to see EWOK on the track as well.

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std 195 -vs- std 215

std evo2 - vs - std evo sport

std 195 - vs - std evo sport

would be amazed if there's much between any of them - that is, to the extent that 'proper' std cars could be found still with factory spec engine power...

assumes same driver/track conditions/tyres etc etc

a huge task for it to be meaningful

and even then the results wouldn't suit everybody

one test that would be very interesting would be an evo sport with a 3.25 diff - just to see if the bigger engine does make a difference in the real world

....or how about a Total BMW challenge to Mercedes Enthusiast magazine - comparing lap times with 109e 16v variants.....there is a bond between these cars and am always amazed the comics haven't made more of it...just waiting for Octane to get there first and ask Mark Hales to compare evo sport with 190e evo 2

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Points: 87 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2005 at 12:32

Guys dont worry too much about lap times, cos non of us will get near to Tiffs time in a 195bhp M3 with road rubber, the main thing to remember about these cars is to have fun and enjoy it, the track day at Anglesey sounds great maybe in summer its a great place to camp, we have raced there many times its ace, bring it on.Steve
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I wonder if the Lancia guys are getting the same level of grief as we are?
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Points: 7213 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2005 at 12:55

would some of you be interested in a planned trip to the Isle of Man next year?

http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=25070&a mp;PN=1&TPN=1&get=last#230718


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Points: 7213 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2005 at 13:08

Originally posted by rr_ww rr_ww wrote:

I wonder if the Lancia guys are getting the same level of grief as we are?

Lancia Delta Integrale.

I always remember the Revs magazine group test many years ago...

"Feels like a turbocharged Massey Ferguson and looks like a Lada Niva.  Parts coming off in your hand - ahh but owners say "thats 'character'.... Never before have I looked forward to driving a car so much and been so utterly f*&%&*£ disappointed"



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Points: 1 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2005 at 14:41

Originally posted by rr_ww rr_ww wrote:

I wonder if the Lancia guys are getting the same level of grief as we are?

er... yes

http://forums.delphiforums.com/evoforum/messages/?msg=16418. 1

Also has useful mpeg download of offending shootout
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Wow, you are all very p*ssed. It is just tv and doesn't change how I feel about the E30 M3. I like the car and the way it communicates, I like the racing heritage, I like the looks and I can't say anything about the two cars in the test. Maybe they were like apples and peers, but it shouldn't change how you feel about your car. You know why you like them, don't you?

Unfortunately, I haven't been able to see it yet, but for sure the M3 will look good on track with Tiff sliding the car around. That should be worth more than a 1,000 words. And for all those people who take the p* out of "us", they don't know what they are talking about.

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Owning a classic car is a bit like knowing a really good joke - you either get it, and it makes you smile every time you think of it, or you don't. 

Very well said.

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Points: 7213 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2005 at 14:56
Originally posted by Tiffy Tiffy wrote:

Also has useful mpeg download of offending shootout

and heres a link to the full episode via bittorrent

http://www.mininova.org/tor/175752

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Originally posted by stephenperry stephenperry wrote:

Originally posted by rr_ww rr_ww wrote:

I wonder if the Lancia guys are getting the same level of grief as we are?

Lancia Delta Integrale.

I always remember the Revs magazine group test many years ago...

"Feels like a turbocharged Massey Ferguson and looks like a Lada Niva.  Parts coming off in your hand - ahh but owners say "thats 'character'.... Never before have I looked forward to driving a car so much and been so utterly f*&%&*£ disappointed"

I have this mag in question and was written by a Ford Cossie devotee, but every other tester on the test loved the Grale. And yes I own an Evo but Modified and no doubt all spotty 18 year olds in their mam's Fiesta's will now think they can blow me away ho hum. You do need to take this with a pinch off salt. There is only 0.74 of a second's difference between our cars and a NEW Cupra Leon Type R 225 which has more power as standard and more driver aids.
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Points: 1365 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2005 at 15:01
Originally posted by Jonners Jonners wrote:

comparing lap times with 109e 16v variants.....


I think you'd lose - the 109e was made by Messerschmit !!!
It did have a Mercedes engine though!

Now the Focke Wolfe 190 did have a BMW engine . . .

Tally ho chaps!
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Points: 447 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-December-2005 at 15:23

Nice one!

And two fabulous engines at that. Another good parallel in fact: New Eurofighter would blow the Me109, FW190 & Spitfire out of the sky, but which would you rather tell your mates you flew? No contest in my book!

 
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