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Europameister
Groupie Joined: 25-August-2005 Location: Manchester Status: Offline Points: 64 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 15:50 |
Aaron, I'm sure you had the video set!! I felt that they treated the M3 a bit poorly on FG. Who cares how fast it went round the track. I've swapped a Civic Type R for my M3 and it might not be as easy to drive quickly but it is certainly a lot more rewarding. The point is I can't see them having too many "shootouts" between Citroen C2's & Sportka's etc 20 years after they were made. Anyway that's my rant over and the car looked good Aaron!!
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evosport
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 25-July-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 171 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 16:11 |
Aaron, just finished watching the show, the car looked great. All the other cars used are provided by car manufacturers, so thrashing the sh1t out of them so not matter to the TV company, as it will not cost them anything to get a replacement. Top Gear Mag was the same when the did the M Power, Ultimate Car article in December 2003, with Steve Soper driving. 5 out the 6 quickest cars were all provided by BMW UK. Craig 1990 M3 Sport Evo 2002 330d Sport Touring |
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steven.seed
Really Senior Member II Joined: 24-June-2005 Location: Sale, Cheshire Status: Offline Points: 1507 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 16:21 |
Hi Aaron, Well I thought the car looked great and the times are not important. Whats more important is the fact that the E30 M3 is an iconic classic and if not for guys like you who cherish them and keep them in such lovely condition TV presenters wouldn't have the opportunity to drive them anywhere at any speed let alone around a race track. Like someone has said before, won't be many Ka's or colts being driven to work in the week then around a circuit at the weekend in 20 years time. Good luck. Steve.
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TRACKPIG
Really Senior Member II Joined: 07-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 582 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 16:48 |
hang on, lets not kid ourselves. we are talking about m3's here not your run of the mill super mini, of course times are important. the street ka is for girls and hairdressers with not a sport orientated part on it whereas the m3 is a track orientated car. cant help thinking a car knocking out its full brake horse power quota should and would have done better than this. |
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SFH3L
Really Senior Member I Joined: 03-October-2004 Location: Near Buckingham Status: Offline Points: 447 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 16:55 |
"knicker dropping power" - I like that. Does anyone know which chip/airbox combination gives the most? Seriously, I enjoyed the show, and actually though they were pretty reasonable to both the old cars. Having seen the joke that is a "Top Gear" test, it was a pleasure to see Tiff actually driving the cars rather than showing off. He said himself that surprising though the times were, they were from 20 year old cars, that both felt fresh and fun to drive. I guess the point they were making was that car technology has moved on a lot. A low mileage Sport Evo and an Integrale Evo2 would no doubt have been a fair bit quicker, but that wouldn't say what they wanted to say. If you recall Clarkson boiling a DB5 dry as his way of showing that classics are no good, I think 5th Gear shows a lot more grown up treatment of the topic. By the way, the M3 looked fantastic Aaron. Just think of the following: E30 M3 or Fiesta ST? Monet or Tracy Emin? 911 2.7 RS or new Carrera 4? Medoc or Jacob's Creek? Miura or Murcielago? Saturn V or Space Shuttle? 250GTO or Superamerica? Progress ain't necessarily forward motion! |
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stephenperry
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Posted: 12-December-2005 at 16:56 |
i missed it, but i'm sure it will be appearing for download on www.finalgear.com soon....
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SHEPSM3
Bavarian-Board Contributor UK Sport Evolution. Joined: 26-December-2004 Location: Bristol, UK. Status: Offline Points: 1934 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 17:00 |
Well done Aaron, your car looked great, and looked much more modern than the Intergrale IMO. I think it was a fair shoot out, the M3 power sliding everywhere, the Intergrale understeering everywhere. With the Lancias extra traction of 4wd and probably alot more torque than the M3 once on boost, it may not be suprising that the italian was slightly quicker. Maybe thay should have had a 3dr Sierra cossie there too??? This would have been a better match for the M3 perhaps, especially in standard trim. |
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BMG M3
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-April-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1594 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 17:05 |
ok, so we need a track day there after the winter to see what everyones M3 can do.Right ?
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coates
Senior Member II Joined: 16-May-2005 Status: Offline Points: 198 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 17:17 |
it seems a 325 can manage it two seconds quicker!!?? |
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E46ACS
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-April-2005 Location: Durham Status: Offline Points: 683 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 17:27 |
Where do I sign up???? |
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My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Ferris pass-out at 31 Flavours last night. I guess it's pretty serious.
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Dazzieboy
Groupie Joined: 08-April-2005 Location: Nottingham UK Status: Offline Points: 69 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 17:33 |
I think though its good that these icons get tv coverage nearly 20 years after they were new I cant help feeling they tarnished the image a bit by timing them. I did a trackday at donington in mine a few weeks ago and embarassed a few newer cars. Its now in the back of my mind that every time I go to Mcdonalds all the rude boys in their tin boxes will think they can have me. And the girl next door has a fiesta ST, need to avoid her for a few days now too. |
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The Future's The Past
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SHEPSM3
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Posted: 12-December-2005 at 17:39 |
Atleast you will have fun proving them wrong! |
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Dazzieboy
Groupie Joined: 08-April-2005 Location: Nottingham UK Status: Offline Points: 69 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 18:13 |
True! I think my biggest frustration is that too many car "enthusiasts" take these times as gospel. Im sure we've all overheard people comparing the stats in the back of Evo magazine its almost like modern day top trumps. Im too many peoples minds a Citroen C2 will now always be quicker than an old M3 and no amount of convincing will change their minds |
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The Future's The Past
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Hoofty
Senior Member I Joined: 24-July-2005 Location: Northants Status: Offline Points: 102 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 18:41 |
'Tis true - was almost a complete stalemate between myself and a Clio 182 at Bedford last Saturday; the '3 Just had a tiny, tiny advantage from about 100mph upwards. I'm sure with a decent driver it'd have pulled out a more respectable lead than I managed though. |
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Darren M
Really Senior Member II Joined: 31-October-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 533 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 18:46 |
does anyone know if it is repeated?
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jamesrose
Really Senior Member I Joined: 10-October-2003 Location: Billericay, Essex Status: Offline Points: 372 |
Posted: 12-December-2005 at 18:49 |
I'm pretty sure its repeated at midnight on Tuesday
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rezaq
Senior Member II Joined: 20-March-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 248 |
Posted: 13-December-2005 at 02:45 |
not happy. i really did think that it would do better than that. they should have picked a 215 bhp m against that 16v integrale for a start. well done aaron though - car looks just like mine!!
i work for ford and am gonna get grilled today - a lot of my colleagues have st fiestas and now think they are quicker than me... |
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UweM3
Moderator Group Joined: 11-February-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5445 |
Posted: 13-December-2005 at 03:05 |
...which is probably true. Don't forget we are talking about a 20 year old car without any drive aids or other gimmiks. Let's see how fast the ST Fiasko is in 20 years compared to the 2026 hotch hatches! BTW, I always wonder if all that sideways and smoking is really improving the lap times?? Mine never had any traction problems with the old 195 engine in. |
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E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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rezaq
Senior Member II Joined: 20-March-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 248 |
Posted: 13-December-2005 at 03:16 |
guess its a st focus for me then!!!!
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m3screamer
Groupie Joined: 18-March-2005 Status: Offline Points: 67 |
Posted: 13-December-2005 at 03:24 |
No, it's not. But lets not lose sight of the fact that 5th Gear/Top Gear are there purely to entertain, not to promote anything resembling scientific fact. I'd say if you're bothered about what other people think of your M3 compared to modern day hot hatches then you're driving the wrong car. Edited by m3screamer |
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