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Topic: is it classed as coupe Posted: 09-October-2005 at 13:34 |
i was just thinking is a 1987 2 door e30 classed as a coupe the one afteris the e36 reply back if any one knows thanx e30 owner steve
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Rhys
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Posted: 09-October-2005 at 14:58 |
Yep
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Posted: 10-October-2005 at 05:48 |
I dont think it is, i have been corrected by people on this subject before apparently the e30 2 door is classed as a 2 door saloon, not a coupe......
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Posted: 10-October-2005 at 13:21 |
I would have thought a 2 door saloon is a coup - or is a coup a car that has no door pillers at all, and no rim round the window. If this is the case then there are no E30 coup's at all as the only pillerless E30 is the convertable.
Then again, I don't think the E36 is pillerless (my compact certainly isn't).
Anyway I've sent an email to BMW GB as I'm curious.
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Posted: 11-October-2005 at 03:42 |
A coupe is a 4 seater car with 2 doors and a sloping roof.
The E30 is a saloon no matter how many doors it has, M3 included.
The E36 has a different bodyshell for the 2 door, so can be classed as a coupe.
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Posted: 11-October-2005 at 04:53 |
You're right the coupe body shell is a different shape all together than the saloon models.
For example the E46 coupe body shell is longer than the standard E46 4 door saloon.
Let us know what the official BMW GB answer is Rhys..... Well done Steve a good question!
Cheers
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Posted: 11-October-2005 at 04:55 |
My money's on it being a saloon
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Posted: 11-October-2005 at 08:49 |
I don't consider it a coupe either!
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Posted: 11-October-2005 at 13:01 |
thanks for all the replys just a thing i wonted to no as i own a e30 2door my brother in law owns ae36 2 door and we were asking the same queston thanks for help
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Posted: 11-October-2005 at 16:22 |
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Posted: 11-October-2005 at 18:06 |
when will we know the answer to this
steve
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Posted: 11-October-2005 at 18:32 |
Will post when I get an answer
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Posted: 12-October-2005 at 03:45 |
Rhys wrote:
Nick wrote:
A coupe is a 4 seater car with 2 doors and a sloping roof. |
So.. is a compact a coup - 2 doors, sloping back
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Absolutely not!
How do you define 'cool'.. you can't.. it either is or it isn't. Likewise with a coupe... you will know when you see one. There are plenty of cars out there with sloping roofs, very few of them are coupes.
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Posted: 12-October-2005 at 13:08 |
Actually the definition of coupe is "cut short" or "cut down".
It arose from the days when you bought a chassis & body separately.
The body could be either the full saloon or a cut down body with
reduced rear passenger accomodation - a coupe as in Coupe de
Ville. The next logical step was to have a shortened chassis to
fit the cut down body on.
Coupes have fixed roofs but not necessarily sloping. The BMW 503 is a coupe as it was available in varous forms.
Coupes can have more than 2 doors. The Rover P5B was available as a saloon or a coupe with a lowered roof line.
The 6-series (old & new) are coupes as they're based on saloons
(5-series) with "reduced bodywork". The fact that they're both heavier
than the saloons should be ignored as they are better looking.
The main point is that the coupe version has reduced rear accomodation
to save weight (hence the performance image) & hopefully provide a
more attractive car (so much for the Fiat Coupe!).
By definition then the Merc CLS is NOT a coupe as it is only available in one body style ie it's a low roofed saloon.
But the main question - the E36 is a coupe as it has an altered roof line to the saloon.
As the E30 is neither shorter than the 4 door, doesn't have reduced
rear passenger space or a lower roof line it's a saloon. Also it was
released in 2 door form first with the 4 door following on.
Now the big question - is my E30 Touring a shooting brake or an estate?
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Posted: 12-October-2005 at 13:29 |
AndyS wrote:
Now the big question - is my E30 Touring a shooting brake or an estate?
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The only 'shooting brake' to me is an Aston Martin (IIRC)
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Posted: 12-October-2005 at 13:31 |
OK, got an answer..
BMW wrote:
Dear Mr Moore,
Thank you for your email to BMW Customer Information dated October 11, 2005.
We are able to confirm that the E30 BMW is classed as a 2dr Saloon.
If I can provide you with any help in the future, please contact me on the
details below.
Yours sincerely,
Tiffany Martin
Product Advisor
BMW UK
Tel: 0800 325600
Fax: 0870 5050206
Email: customer.information@bmw.co.uk
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..so there you have it.
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Posted: 12-October-2005 at 16:05 |
thanx mate good topic and all of you have anserwed my question ill prob think of a other one soon thanx again
steve 2door e30 saloon owner
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Posted: 12-October-2005 at 19:50 |
stevecooper wrote:
steve 2door e30 saloon owner |
rhys ex 2door e30 saloon owner
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Posted: 13-October-2005 at 08:02 |
Well at least we have an answer anyway......
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Posted: 13-October-2005 at 17:41 |
yes its good to know thanx
steve
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