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skanders
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Posted: 14-August-2005 at 16:31 |
please it would be a great help if u could provide the best and
detailed info if you can as i have been at it since 10.30am
this morning and hav only stopped jus now and am extremely
stressed and upset.
I dont wanna take to an engineer jus yet cos it may be really simpler
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skanders
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Posted: 14-August-2005 at 16:29 |
Yes solved that but would low power steering fluid cause an
all mighty screeching noise when the revs are above 2000rpm cos
that is what it is doing now but when the car is
idling its ok no noise
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LuxAuto
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Posted: 14-August-2005 at 12:42 |
if the system was not overheating prior to you removing it, then it is an airlock.
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skanders
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Posted: 14-August-2005 at 12:35 |
Yes it is the power steering pump the noise has stopped but the fluid is low and i have to power steering.
But now since putting the rad back in the car is overheating again as
it did before but was fixed replaced the thermo, coupling, definately
have to be an airlock.
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LuxAuto
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Posted: 14-August-2005 at 11:17 |
Don't take this the wrong way skanders, but I would advise against
working further on your car until you understand what you are doing.
You could be doing more damage than good.
However, if you are feeling in a fearless mood, you can establish
whether the part that you have worked on is the power steering pump by
checking to see if there are pipes going to the steering rack.
If so, it is the ps pump. The oil that dripped out should also be
a different colour from the oil in your engine (usually red)
I've never heard a worn ps pump clatter before as they usually whine,
but I could be wrong. Once again, if you want to determine
whether it is this unit that is cauing the noise, isolate it by
removing the belt.
Also, what do you mean when you say you opened the pump? Most PS pumps tend to be sealed units nowadays.
I can't really make out what the unit is in the pci above.
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skanders
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Posted: 14-August-2005 at 05:29 |
Jus found out what it is and it seems to be the power steering pump.
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skanders
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Posted: 13-August-2005 at 20:09 |
On my engine its the one circled red in the pictures can someone tell me what this is.
thanks.
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skanders
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Posted: 13-August-2005 at 17:46 |
No mate I removed the one at the bottom under neath
the alternator that is the one that was making the noise
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GavMac
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Posted: 13-August-2005 at 17:12 |
skanders wrote:
Well to be totally honest im not sure if it is an oil pump or not but when i opened it to take it off oil came out so i am assuming that it is the oil pump as at the front it has a wheel and the belt goes around that wheel and the noise is coming from that area.
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This is the oil pump setup on your car, chain driven as you can see.
Item number one on this picture is the water pump which is belt driven and the fan is attached.
This is a picture of the complete engine where you can see the water pump, oil filter housing and most other parts you have referred too.
My only question would be was it the water pump you removed?
Gav
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skanders
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Posted: 13-August-2005 at 16:29 |
lux auto your question answered follow link
http://www.indiacar.com/infobank/oilpumps.htm
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skanders
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Posted: 13-August-2005 at 16:15 |
Well to be totally honest im not sure if it is an oil pump or
not but when i opened it to take it off oil came out
so i am assuming that it is the oil pump as at the front it
has a wheel and the belt goes around that wheel and
the noise is coming from that area.
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LuxAuto
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Posted: 13-August-2005 at 14:37 |
Sorry, but I'm getting confused.
You seem to be jumping from one place to the next. So far, you've
suggested the noise as being caused by the incorrect grade of oil, the
water pump, the fan and now the oil pump.
What have you done exactly to make you think this way?
I'm not familiar with this engine so maybe its my own lack of knowledge
which is causing this, but from my experience, most oil pumps tend to
be driven off a gear and not a belt.
Can you clarify?
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skanders
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Posted: 13-August-2005 at 13:26 |
Still got the same rattleing noise but when i removed the belt
and tried it it went away upon further diags it seems to be
the oil pump making it it doesnt look damaged or anything.
does it need more oil ?
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skanders
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Posted: 13-August-2005 at 08:06 |
Ok dudes i bought some oil exactly as it says in the manual which
is multigrade oil 20w/50 a gallon for £4.99 so here i
go am gonna totally drain it and then fill her up and see
what happens.
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skanders
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Posted: 13-August-2005 at 07:01 |
But another thing the noise is intermittent ,
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At idle the noise only happens when it is below the 1000rpm mark about
750rpm but if i raise it to 3000rpm and let it drop it goes away
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While driving the noise most of the time is constant but it can shut up after a half hour drive
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LuxAuto
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Posted: 13-August-2005 at 06:18 |
Yes, too thin an oil and cause the engine to be noisy, but I doubt that
it would be so noisy that is causes embarrassment!
By all means change the oil if the wrong grade is in it, but if that
really was the case, you would have probably damaged the engine by
now.
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skanders
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Posted: 13-August-2005 at 05:55 |
I think i put in the wrong oil grade the oil was low when i
checked it , it was jus under the mark I put in some cheap
halfords 0w-30w would the oil not be thick enough cause noise in
the engine.
I am gonna drain it all and put in some 15w-40 oil and see what happens.
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LuxAuto
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Posted: 12-August-2005 at 13:28 |
Disconnect the belt that drives the water pump then and you
should find out if it is the water pump or not that is causing the
noise.
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GavMac
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Posted: 12-August-2005 at 12:43 |
How did you stop the fan, did you disconnect the belt?
Vanos, there isn't one on that engine. But if there was it would it would be at the front of the engine at the top where the camshaft pulleys are.
Timing chain is usually covered but on the front of the engine.
Gav
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bmw325tds
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Posted: 12-August-2005 at 12:28 |
he fan is connected, but ny a viscous coupling, so it has a clutch that engages at a particular temparture.
Just because you stopped the fan, it doesn't meant he waterpump stop - it just means the fans not engaged!
I would go with waterpump too - is the fan running smoothly when it is engaged (and can you stop it at all times, in which case the fans knackered as well.)
Just a quick tip - if the waterpump needs replacing, do the thermostat at the same time - it's only a tenner, and sits behind the waterpump, so renew at same time! I did this on mine, and the car now comes up to temp much quicker.
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