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simon735i 
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 Topic: Thats lucky...?
Posted: 01-July-2005 at 14:05 |
Just been out for a gentle burble in the e23.
80mph, clang, kerching, then a scraping sound.Hmmn. stopped asap.Squeaking as loudly as car was while i did so!lol.Quick look revealed nothing, Drive home even slower, finally found it, the pins which hold the rear handbrake shoes on had come through backplate+ everything inside was mangled/twisted+battered.
Im feeling pretty pleased really, could of been so, so much worse, because rather than lock the wheel, it chose to imbed itself into shoes,which are now cream crackered.If it had gone onto edge of shoe, it would of locked.nice. get checking those backplates chaps, not a nice experience. hole should be round, with a good slot through, if its out of shape, im hoping to find a 'button' other cars use that i can put in instead.
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Philip
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E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
Joined: 28-January-2005
Location: Essex
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 14:35 |
thanks for posting Simon. I've not come across this E23 problem before.
What caused the incident to occur do you think?
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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bmw1066
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GOOD OLD E23
Joined: 16-January-2005
Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 14:43 |
I'd be Lucky to hear that in mine what with the blowing exhaust manifold get too noisy but sounds good at low speeds
You down in Brighton this week end Philip or is it just my imagination and me off my rocker
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad
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simon735i
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 15:58 |
 Philip wrote:
thanks for posting Simon. I've not come across this E23 problem before.
What caused the incident to occur do you think?
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On closer inspection,I think it was caused by the guy attempting to 'wiggle' the backplate at mot time. must of dislodged the pin that holds pads in position, allowing it all to move.nice!
Either that, or pin wasn't seated in the groove properly, when last changed. difficult to be precise,as its all mangled.
Dont mean to go on, but the pins rotting off is quite common on older cars, i never cheapskate with brakes+ always replace shoes/pads+ anything that holds them with new parts.
Another thing, i've hunted through owners manual+ can't find what the switch to left of steering wheel, in line with column adjuster does!Also, whats the button between window switches+ seat adjusters only on drivers side????
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Philip
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E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 16:28 |
simon735i wrote:
Another thing, i've hunted through owners manual+ can't find what the switch to left of steering wheel, in line with column adjuster does!Also, whats the button between window switches+ seat adjusters only on drivers side???? |
the first one is the electrical isolator switch which cuts power to the elec windows I think. In the event of an overload the switch will trip to protect the motors. you then reset the switch to restore the power.
the other button might be the isolator for the rear door window switches in the door cards, to stop your kids playing with the windows.
they are mentioned in the Owners Manual somewhere, but only briefly.
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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Philip
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E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
Joined: 28-January-2005
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 16:29 |
bmw1066 wrote:
You down in Brighton this week end Philip or is it just my imagination and me off my rocker |
I sure plan to be in Brighton on Sunday if you want to have a mini-meet. let me know.
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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bmw1066
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GOOD OLD E23
Joined: 16-January-2005
Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 19:18 |
Yes Mini-meet would be good bring VJ  just tell me your time 
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad
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Philip
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E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
Joined: 28-January-2005
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 05:07 |
2pm should be fine Mark.
VJ is off the road again 
exhaust joint has bad leak
also VJ lacks a bootlid at the moment. I am in the process of swapping a non-rusty lid onto the car. they are damned heavy and you really need an assistant.
all part of the joys of classic car ownership???
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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simon735i
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 05:37 |
Have you ever noticed that the heavier+ more awkward the part is, the less the likelyhood of assistance?
Or those joyfull 'one man eazi-bleed' type kits for doing the brakes, that drive you to distractioin, by coming off+ letting more air into the system than you started with!
Then as you pack up, help arrives....
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Horsetan
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 07:00 |
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"That's lucky?"
That's more than lucky.
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bmw1066
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GOOD OLD E23
Joined: 16-January-2005
Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 07:59 |
Horsetan wrote:
"That's lucky?"
That's more than lucky. |
 that's very bad Horsetan 
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad
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bmw1066
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GOOD OLD E23
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 08:01 |
2 should be fine for me Philip. is the e28 road going. If you ever need help just give us a call and I will be over your not too far.
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad
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Horsetan
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 08:04 |
I had a drinking bout last night , so quality of jokes and ripostes are a little bit down at the moment 
Normal service will be resumed shortly. 
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Philip
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E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
Joined: 28-January-2005
Location: Essex
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 08:09 |
bmw1066 wrote:
2 should be fine for me Philip. is the e28 road going. If you ever need help just give us a call and I will be over your not too far. |
I'm about 80 miles from you, but you are most welcome to come over and I will pay your petrol. Help will be much appreciated. Rob used to help me but he don't like E23's anymore
The E28 is just waiting to be taxed & insured. I may do this this month.
then I must sell the E32 as I will not need it anymore
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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bmw1066
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GOOD OLD E23
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Location: West Sussex Nr Brighton
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 10:32 |
Just let us know when you need a hand,
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad
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Philip
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E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 13:26 |
bmw1066 wrote:
Just let us know when you need a hand, |
How about next Sat or Sun? We can try to remove a jammed elec seat from the Silver Surfer. they are a swine to get out if the motors wont move the seat fore & aft
I will lay on some refreshments, many thanks.
tomorrow I will bring the mountney boss if you still want it.
also, free boot spoiler if you want one. I hate them as they seem to cause rust where you bolt them to the bootlid
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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bmw1066
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GOOD OLD E23
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 14:22 |
Make it next sat then Philip, Thankfully my front and rear seats are free. I was having a poke around on my boot lid and it looks as my spoiler is bolted on to but it looks so good, so I hope the boot lid is good,...as if
I will go and get you some Red for you, any requests, se you tomorrow
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Mark 735 se 1982
RED BARON A E23 is for life not just for x-mas
BMW e34 530 v8 Sport kit
Spelling always Bad
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Philip
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E23 the forgotten 80s BMW
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 15:38 |
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thanks Mark, around a fiver should get you a nice bottle of the old vino.
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Philip
'86 E23 735iA SE - Polaris - The Silver Surfer
'85 E23 735iA SE - Cosmos Blue - VJ
'86 E28 528iA SE - Dia Black - Helga
'86 E23 728iA SE - Polaris - The CHAV mobile
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eta.
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Posted: 03-July-2005 at 02:57 |
Philip wrote:
also VJ lacks a bootlid at the moment. I am in the process of swapping a non-rusty lid onto the car. they are damned heavy and you really need an assistant.
all part of the joys of classic car ownership??? |
Phil, just a long shot, Shogun put up a post recently about how quick it is to change the bootlid on the e32 - no bolts, just catches. Just wonder if that design carried over from the e23?
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Thats lucky...?
