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Peter Fenwick
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Topic: F1..the ultimate farce Posted: 30-June-2005 at 05:11 |
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Well the FIA have found the seven Michellin teams guilty on two counts, failing to bring a tyre to the race that was suitable and failing to start the race. The punishment will not be decided until the 14th of septemeber, I guess so that it won't affect the rest of the season. |
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Rhys
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Posted: 29-June-2005 at 18:14 | |||||||||
I've stopped watching F1 as well, I agree with others views on Ferrari having one rule etc. Remember the Rubens thing where he had to slow down to let Michael pass? that was sad - but looks like its getting sadder all the time. Needs something new to make it interesting.
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Peter H
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Posted: 29-June-2005 at 08:24 | |||||||||
FIA Press conference 2pm (uk time) teams shortly after, strange rumours circulating at moment ( BAR Banned - heavy fines for others etc)
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 27-June-2005 at 06:55 | |||||||||
I thought this was probably the most objective view so far http://www.itv-f1.com/Feature.aspx?Type=James_Allen&PO_I D=33214
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Badger 540
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Posted: 26-June-2005 at 10:23 | |||||||||
Sorry to disappoint you Micky... I took the advice not to watch Top Gear..... I found some damp Dulux to stare at instead....infinetley more enjoyable !! Andy |
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Peter H
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Posted: 25-June-2005 at 15:11 | |||||||||
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 23-June-2005 at 05:05 | |||||||||
Ah Spokey, I have seen you posting for a long time. Have you been away or just busy? No, I'm not saying that. If the only team that had tyre problems was Williams, or any other team for that matter, I would take the same stance. If one team cannot race it is not the end of the world, if seven can't, it is. Mind you wrt to testing it's one rule for ferrari and one for everyone else isn't it. Also don't Ferrari get a much bigger cut of the money than the other teams?
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Peter H
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Posted: 22-June-2005 at 16:05 | |||||||||
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spokey
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Posted: 22-June-2005 at 12:27 | |||||||||
So, it's one set of rules for Ferrari and one for every else, eh? |
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 20-June-2005 at 06:41 | |||||||||
I'm not supprised. The big difference is that if Ferrari don't race there will still be a race. The other bridgestone runners didn't have any problems. Also Bridgstone didn't come out and say "you can't race on these tyres" Although the two occasions are centered around the same problem, there is an order of magnitude difference between the results. Although I appreciate Ferrari's stance it meant that there wasn't a race, or at least not a proper one. The people who got screwed were the paying public who bought tickets. Paul Stoddard summed it up prefectly whern he said it's time to think about the sport and not the rules, or words to that effect, and he was a bridgestone runner who stood to gain from all the Michelin using teams not running. Being right and justisfied is not going to stop the sport going under. |
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B 7 VP
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Posted: 20-June-2005 at 05:41 | |||||||||
Ferrari are well aware that the public pays the piper, and have excellent memories----------Unlike it would seem the rest of the Teams and THE "Fans" A couple of race,s ago, Ferrari were having megga Problems with the set up and handling of their cars------------Problems????? and it was called Bridgestone Tyres, wrong Compound ++++.They withdrew the cars. Who heard Ferrari requesting a change of course surface OR chicane,s???????????? the Michelin Runners laughed and said Tough mate . So!!!!!!!!! youre Surprised when ferrari stucked 2 fingers up, are you |
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 20-June-2005 at 05:05 | |||||||||
What an utter shambles. The day the rule book becomes more important than the racing is the day the sport dies. Apparently Ferrari were the only team to object to the chicaine. Have they forgotten that it's the public that pay for the sport. No racing = no spectators = no sponsors = no F1. It might be a good thing though. This kind of occurance can only encourage the formation of a breakaway formula. A totally fresh start is what this sport needs. Damn missed topgear, is it on again anytime this week?
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B 7 VP
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Posted: 20-June-2005 at 04:58 | |||||||||
[QUOTE=micky_h]No problem.I'm just waiting for Badger540 coming on and having a whinge for jumping a limo off a ramp into caravans now. What a great opportunity Missed!!!!!!!! They could have stuck the 3 Stooges in the Limo, did the jump and panned to the 3 Mums---The New presenters----who spoke more sense than the stooges put together. |
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Horsetan
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Posted: 20-June-2005 at 04:22 | |||||||||
What, did they try to fit metric tyres? |
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thepits
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Posted: 19-June-2005 at 17:35 | |||||||||
So back to the thread!........
Agreed, F1 has been going downhill for years - 10 teams? 20 cars?? that's only just more than the BTCC!!!!!
So come to the ROCK for SCSA - (ascar by any other name!) 1st weekend of the month May till October, Can't promise you as many cars than NASCAR, but certainly more than the US GP - and more fun (& cheaper!)!! |
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thepits
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Posted: 19-June-2005 at 17:28 | |||||||||
Cheers mate - but i've already found it - and posted -haha
nah - no problems - nigel's a mate of mine |
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micky_h
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Posted: 19-June-2005 at 17:15 | |||||||||
http://www.bmwcarclubforum.co.uk/forum_posts.asp?TID=18902&P N=1
There you go.Hope I dont get wrong off the powers to be. |
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thepits
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Posted: 19-June-2005 at 17:12 | |||||||||
that means i have to do a search, and i can't be ***'d at this time of night, any chance of a link? Edited by thepits |
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micky_h
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Posted: 19-June-2005 at 17:08 | |||||||||
Read the More Clarkson Bias thread |
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thepits
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Posted: 19-June-2005 at 17:01 | |||||||||
Eh? p.s. NASCAR is over - and more than 6 cars finished! |
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