Donington - Track Day

Does anyone know as yet if we can use the "R compound tyres" yet?  I have 17" Hartge's on mine, and i'm buying new wheels and Yoko A032R's for the track.  So I aint gonna track the Hartge's and I aint gonna buy another set of tyres, that i'll use once!

Cheers,

James

Nick,

Your event looks like a good day out, it makes sense to be able to learn a bit more about the car, esp as I haven't driven one for nearly 6 months.  Only problem is, I get back from the Algarve quite late on Sunday, so not sure if I can make it on the monday.

thanks,

James

with respect, it is Brian Bradley that you need to speak to not 'the club'.

Brian is the organiser of the event.

Nick

Right, I have just spoken to Chris Waddsley:

He says that 'R' compound tyres will definately NOT be allowed on ANY BMWCC day next year.  Donnington, however, has not been agreed as yet, but the general concensus is that they will not be allowed there either. 

I am pretty p155ed off!  I have just payed for a new set of 15's with Yoko A032R's on them!  Now I find out that I cannot go to Donnington this year, or any other "Better driving day" organised by the club next year!!!!!!!

Chris says that the other clubs, e.g. Drivers, have not addressed the issue over 'R' compunds as yet, and they may well follow suit.

What is everyone elses opinion?? 

Was there any warning of this in any Car Club literature??

John,

Chris said that they would definately be banned on all BMW CC events next year.  Donnington has not been decieded as yet, but Chris said that he wants them banned and the rest would agree.

I agree, Nick has been the exception, thank you Nick for taking the time to talk to us.  Any chance you can organise some events a bit further

south??  But Chris did say that Nick allows anything at his events.

The other option is that members who use 'R' compound tyres will cease to attend club events banning them!  This would not be good for the club!  Personally, I think the Club is great, generally well run with lots of variety.  But, if this rule about tyres is brought in, what is the point of being a member of a club that bans road legal tyres at club events??

James

oh.. I still want to run Croft'04, 05, 06 etc 'my way' so I will need to look at buying some insurance for the event... this will mean either;

a, It will cost each driver more

b, more cars at the event to make it break even.

This means that Croft'03 looks like it will be the last time we can run a big event with less than 50 cars..

... like I have said.. I still have a few places left... you really should think about coming.

Nick

Hi guys, I think I have found out what started all this Insurance/tyre problem out.

I was told this by one of my local BMW specialists, it happened last year.

There was a trackday at Cadwell Park, and some fool in a Ferrari 355 bined it into a wall.  He had trackday insurance, but when then insurance assesor arrived he discovered that there was some gravel on the track, invalidating the fool's insurance!  This ass*ole in the Ferrari then sued the marshall, responsable for that particular area, for £68,000.  As alot of you are probably aware, common sense, decency and the justice system are largely non-existant when it comes to legal action!  So the guy in the Ferrari won £68k from this unpaid marshall, who had given up hs own time to marshall an event due to his love of motorsport.  They marshall had to sell his house to pay the costs, and his wife divorced him. 

So you can't really blame the CC for its stance over the insurance, but as per usual it is being spoilt by one person (in this case) for every other person that does track days!

James

Unfortunately, I am in the same boat as Roops.  My new wheels and A032R’s are here this week, so I can’t do any Car Club Better Driving Days for the foreseeable future. 

I understand the insurance thing, but these tyres are road legal!  How can the Car Club ban road legal tyres on a ‘Better Driving Day’??  If people drove there and back, would they be allowed??

Oh well, I am sure that all the above questions would have been answered, or at least discussed had this issue been made aware to the members…

I am still p155ed off that I bought a set of tyres to use at Car Club events, but when I get them, there is a sudden change, AND I CAN’T USE THEM!!!!  There was no warning from anyone!  I find it totally outrageous that the Club can ban things without consulting, or at least warning it’s members, I am not made of money!!

My gripe is not at the decision; it’s with the way this has been handled. 

   James

Quote: Originally posted by therealmccoy on 23-June-2003

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My new wheels and A032R’s are here this week, so I can’t do any Car Club Better Driving Days for the foreseeable future. 

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Yes you can.. Croft'03 on July the 21st.

I still have a couple of places left.

Nick