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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 12:07
Colin, did the operator tell you what it was putting out at the wheels?

Also, what do they charge for a power run. I will be passing by that way soon and might pop in for the sake of science.

My Sport evo with Milltek and Motec put out 190 at the wheels which the machine equated to 258 at the fly wheel.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 11:16
Uwe it would not have bothered me if he showed me 180 rwp it's how the car performs i'm interested in.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 10:08
Originally posted by 215m3 215m3 wrote:

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Mine showed a shade under 200 at the wheels. Gerry has said the rwp can depend on many issues: -



Yeah agree. And the main issue is what the Dyno operator wants to show to you to make you a happy customer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 08:59
Uwe

Mine showed a shade under 200 at the wheels. Gerry has said the rwp can depend on many issues: -

1. what gear the power run is attempted in, 3rd will give more than 5th
2. how wide the rollers are apart
3. the friction from the transmision back to the rollers
4. what state the rollers are in

My curve is no curve, but a striaght line i'll post a pic soon.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 08:53
215 at the wheels from a standard Sport EVO??
You must be kidding!
Mine is pulling 190hbp at the wheels (+/- can't remember) and 245 crank with 2.5 and 290 cams.
But as you said, DYNO's are a looooong story
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 08:40

I forgot to say that the before run had a 'AMD' chip but when i installed the Alpha N i got a standard chip from Martin but with limit raised to 7800 therefore ignition timing may have made a slight difference. I thought it a bit optimistic at the time.

The subject of how accurate DYNOs is a LARGE topic !!!

Can't really answer how accurate their one is - i'm more interested in comparison between pre / post mods and i had Tobys car there to compare against as well

I know from speaking to Lester Owen that he had mapped a standard Sport Evo with Motec and got 215 at the wheels - roughly equating to 250 flywheel.

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PS - Thanks for the graph Uwe



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 08:25
Don't you think that the DYNO used is abit optimistic?
239bhp for a standard E3 engine??
Most of the SPORT EVO's struggle to get past 220bhp in the E30 shell.

here are your graphs for comparision

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19-May-2005 at 08:12

I had my 2002 / Alpha N mapped yesterday at the same rolling road as Toby.  Before and after graphs attached (before was carried out on the same rollers last September)

Alpha N Results (flywheel): 246 BHP at 7290 and 192 lb/ft at 6000

Engine is standard Sport Evo - 7800 rev limit, custom manifold and single 3" exhaust.  Standard plenum but with 4" inlet and ITG Filter.

My torque and power curves have a couple of 'holes' at 3000 and 4000 RPM - probably due to the manifold arrangement necessary to fit an S14 into the 2002.

Mapping took about 3hrs - the final power runs were done after 3hrs running so heat could be a bit of an issue - used a full tank of optimax and covered about 90 miles on the rollers !

Note that the table of figures only gives readings at 500 rpm intervals - i got the screen capture for maximum power reading but cannot link to it - as i said, it was 246 at 7290.

The car drives much better with the Alpha N - better than the figures would have you believe.

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