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    Posted: 28-April-2005 at 03:43

I remember seeing an article by someone on adjusting the windows so that they would close INSIDE the seals...anyone else remember that, and know where to find the detail...there are soo many screws  its scary...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-April-2005 at 07:11
This is very tricky. You need to make sure the door is
properly adjusted to begin with. I don't know about
getting the glass to sit behind the seals - wouldn't
that make it very difficult to open/close - but if you go
to
www.normgrills.net/bcg/Body_Interior.html#anchor2
4982937 there's a useful guide on how to do it. I still
haven't got it quite right.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-April-2005 at 14:02

After much experimentation I have admitted defeat on this one.

If they are set so that the door closes easily then at speed (~120mph on the autobahn of course...) they pop out sideways with a loud 'fumph' sound.

If they are set so that they engage with the door rubbers enough so that they won't pop out as described, then the door won't close properly.

From the outside I have to push on the glass when I close the door and then it's OK.

From the inside, the windows need to be dropped before the door can be closed without the glass remaining resolutely outside the rubbers. I may make a gadget that does this automatically at some point- the Peugeot coupe (and later frameless door BMWs?) have this feature as standard.

Very small adjustments to the stop make a big difference to the glass height. As the stop wears the glass comes higher and higher, and the risk of breaking the glass when closing the door increases.

Nearly every 6er door I have ever looked in has had bits of broken glass in the bottom, from where the window has broken in the past.

I see a lot of other 6er owners who don't have this sort of problem, but then a lot of them might never drive fast enough to find out their windows might not be secure at speed. I think its rare that the doors close OK and the windows are perfectly secure. 

If anyone else has a good suggestion on this I'd be interested too.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28-April-2005 at 14:36
I do exactly the same - close the door and push the
glass into the rubber by hand. It's waterproof and
doesn't make much noise. Only problem is you have
to get in through the passenger door.
Every modern coupé with frameless doors drops
and raises the glass when the door's
opened/closed. I guess you'd need a switch on the
handle to operate the window motor a fraction to
drop the glass.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-May-2005 at 19:50

Thanks for those replies..normgrills is a good starting point

I think my windows are a lot behind the standard of yours Brucey...they are screaming at 40mph...I notice on the passenger door that there is enough 'play' on the glass to allow me to pus the glass inside the rubber seals...but it also hist against the black plastic B-pillar at the top...I suppose the window needs a forwards tilt and then a series of fine adjustments...

 

the driver dooe just is an enigma...the seals are okay...it looks straight but when the window is would up fully, the motor or mechanism is ever so slightly forcing the interior panel of the door INWARDS...very dodge...but I cant seam to find the root of the problem...

but i am enjoying this really...

no really

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-May-2005 at 19:57

a thousand apologies for the spelling/typing in that post...wow...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2005 at 18:30
Originally posted by Brucey Brucey wrote:

...I see a lot of other 6er owners who don't have this sort of problem, but then a lot of them might never drive fast enough to find out their windows might not be secure at speed....



I beg to differ on this one

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2005 at 18:30
Originally posted by trev trev wrote:

...i am enjoying this really...


no really



You've been very quiet since you drove the car back to Limerick, Trev......

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2005 at 18:36
Originally posted by Horsetan Horsetan wrote:

Originally posted by Brucey Brucey wrote:

...I see a lot of other 6er owners who don't have this sort of problem, but then a lot of them might never drive fast enough to find out their windows might not be secure at speed....



I beg to differ on this one

-of course- you are the exception that proves this rule, no????

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02-May-2005 at 19:19

I have lost a whole pile of data..computer was infected with spyware and basically ground to a halt...lost internet access etc etc...

hence the quiet period 'since I drove back to Limerick'

 

also I got the passenger side window realigned today...great sense of achievement...took about 40 mins...

its probably not perfect but...the door is closing without the glass hitting off the b-pillar etc etc...

normgrills.net was a great site for info on this...

now for the door side...I fear that the seals are the issue there...

money needed...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-May-2005 at 18:02

one of the faults in the opeing of my driver window was that someone replaced one og the dorr-hinge screws with a longer one...and it was blocking the glass 3/4s of the way down...

I nearly got the 2 windows to stop whistling...its 60mph before they act up now...but I reckong the I will not make any more progress with these door seals as they are...I dont know but they dont look like the 'best-thought-out' idea that BMW ever put on a car...at speed it is reasonable to expect the seals to be compressed and this is enough to allow the air to get at the top of a closed window and then whistle...I could adjust till the cows come home, but the seals will still be too shallow...especially near the side mirror holder...

has anyone purchased new window seals and stopped the whistling?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-May-2005 at 12:12

Hello!

 I am Francesco from North Italy a new member of this forum.....

Have you checked this site out?

http://www.normgrills.net/bcg/Body_Interior.html 

Scroll down the page, You cen find some picture and instructions to fix windows and stop wind noise up to 80%(in my case)...I hope this helps,

Francesco from North italy ( '83 635 & 74 3,3LAutomtic)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2005 at 07:55
I saw a tidy enough looking chrome bumper 635 at a used car dealers in Udine about 6 months ago, but there was nobody there to speak to about it.  Not you by any chance?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-May-2005 at 08:27

Do You know the name of used car dealer?

There' are  a lot of BMW 6(pre anf posyt 1982) in Italy, for sale....some is good, some is terrible and only for spares...

Please send me a private e-mail to : siscotroia@hotmail.com

then i will alert my friend near Udine( about 450 kms from my computer) and I will then report you about the car...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17-May-2005 at 17:27
Hi,

I have a similar prob with the window adjustment on the passenger side. I have to push the glass to seat it into the rubber at the top/or put the window down and back up to re-seat it. The seals also leak water at the bottom where the 3 holes are punched in the rubber seal.

Has anyone renewed the rubber seals? Is this a difficult task?

Any comments appreciated

Eric

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