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whiterider 
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 Topic: spare part spraying-help!
Posted: 03-March-2005 at 15:06 |
My other half being a stubborn old ****, he has a second hand door for his E28 520 the wrong colour, will need a new front wing, and the bonnet lacquer coat has seen better days.
He's torn between trying to do it all himself - not very practical, or doing what he can and getting a local spray shop to do the rest.
He's seen a TV show where they prepared the old paint by washing with a scourer pad to roughen the surface, he knows about using wet & dry to smooth it down, he's ok with aerosols ans has an electric compressor but nowhere to plug it in and work. Don't think he knows how to get old lacquer coat off and how to renew it.
Anyone got any advice?
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Nick
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BMWCC Area Organiser Yorks & Humber
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 15:36 |
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I would have a go myself.
The parts you mention all come away from the car and can be painted in the garden on a nice day.
Leave them on the car to rub them down though.. lots of soapy water and wet and dry paper.. dont forget to remove all the trims first.. the secret is in the preparation.. smooth rubbing down is essential.. spraying is not as hard as you think.. practice on something first.. an old metal dustbin is ideal.. it has ribs and hollows to mimic swage lines.. if you can paint the bin evenly without any blobs or runs, you can do the car.
Good luck
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whitey
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 16:40 |
Nick is right, its all in the prepping. However you do need some idea of what your doing. I do ALL my own painting (Been doing it for 20 years) but only if its a flat colour. I leave the metalics to the pro's. It's also harder these days to get the diy friendly materials when using a compresser. I'm lucky with my local supplier, he still supplies cellulose. I wouldn't get involved with 2 pack purely for health reasons. Not tried HVLP yet, to be honest I don't do enough to invest in the equipment really.
Using aerosols has to be the most expensive way. It's also the hardest way to get an even coat on a panel as large as a bonnet. Cills, Valances, mirrors and the like, a can is ideal.
Top tip with primer is to always dust it with a darker colour before flatting it. You'll be amazed at the high and low spots you'll find. Also ALWAYS use a block on flat panels. Use your hand and you will end up with an uneven finish.
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2000 e39 523i with full factory sport kit.
1989 e30 325i Convertible
1999 Golf GTI 1.8T
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Coasting
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 16:50 |
I am totally flabbergasted (theres a word) by the amount of knowledge on this site at times!
There's a business venture in here dying to get out you know.
The BMWCC Joint (Multiple) Venture company that services the needs of BMW enthusiasts throughout the UK. A garage.
All work is chargeable, but member time is reimbursed by virtue of the fact that the company would be a co-operative and member servicing/repair costs would be free.
Bingo!
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Nigel
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 16:53 |
Not a bad idea, distance would be a tad of a problem though.
It would be great to be able to work with someone to learn what you want to know, I'd love to be able to do bodywork correctly.
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Best Wishes
Nigel
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whitey
Really Senior Member I
Joined: 15-May-2004
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 17:01 |
Alhough not totally self taught (my brother is handy with a spray gun) most of my knowledge has been gained but getting stuck in and learning by mistakes.
I did run a small sideline business buying, selling, bodywork, servicing and pre mot work for 5 years. It got us back on our feet after buying the house but I kyboshed it when the little one came along.
My last classic was a 65 Triumph Herald 12/50 which I restored from the chassis up. It went on to win 2 best of shows and numerous class wins. The paint on that was Royal Blue (the original colour) and was like a mirror. Christ I learnt a lot doing that one!!!! The e30's coming along nicely though.
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2000 e39 523i with full factory sport kit.
1989 e30 325i Convertible
1999 Golf GTI 1.8T
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Coasting
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 17:09 |
 Nigel wrote:
distance would be a tad of a problem though. |
Hmm, don't know. Look at the regions the club has.
Pretty much blanket coverage I suspect and most enthusiasts would be happy to travel if they knew a good job was being done by fellow enthusiasts from what I have learned in my short time here.
Or...BMWCC Forum "Learning Workshops". Those with the skills teach those without them and the legacy is safe going forward.
Where do these throwaway ideas of mine come from? I'll go back to watching TV in the background. Lot's of useless idea's and yet still waiting for the one that delivers the Pagani Zonda..!
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whiterider
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 17:13 |
Learning workshops sounds good Coasting, Ian knows how to do quite a lot but can't stay on his feet to do it, sure he'd be interested showing people "how to", get him out from under my feet!
Nigel, which bodywork do you mean, the cars or yours?
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Coasting
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 17:14 |
whiterider wrote:
Nigel, which bodywork do you mean, the cars or yours? |
Anyone decent with liver overhaul and reconditioning?
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whiterider
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 17:21 |
Sorry, only treatment Ian knows for liver is occasional Jack daniels antifreeze 
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Coasting
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 17:36 |
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Well that'd certainly have an effect on me, but I don't think it would be the desired one!
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whiterider
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Posted: 03-March-2005 at 17:40 |
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mind you, i find liver and onion cassarole very nice!!!!
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spare part spraying-help!