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Jonners - i agree with you.

It does'nt seem right to me if you shell out on a new car/model from a company as well respected as BMW but then have to be subjected to all sorts of recalls.

I understand that new models of cars from alot of manufacturers will have teething problems, What i don't understand is how a product (i.e.E46) could have week suspension components if the product is extensively tested???........or how the M3 has issues with engine components, being that the engine is the primary reason for purchasing such a car!!!!

Furthermore, if i had'nt decided to join this club or spend time on this forum then i would be unaware of any issues with the E46 M3 and would probably have bought one in the future from a dealer in good faith.......not now though

sgwilt999 wrote: I now have my car back it feels good not like my bank balance, i will still and try to recoupe some money back from BMW. Letters to top gear and my mate Tiff at fith gear. Is any one in the stoke area or near-by going to donnington this sunday

Remember your new engine needs running-in m8..

Agree with points over sales of goods law with respect to 'merchantable quality S14' and 'fit for purpose S13' of SOGA '74 as later amended.

I have proposed to Jeff H to set up a team within the club to help 'liase' with dealers and BMW in such matters. Requires legal people who know Sales of Goods legislation, block exemption rules etc.

It's a difficult balance for the club to become involved as it could damage the relationship but if the club doesn't intercede in such occasions then what's the point of that relationship. In a way the BMWCCGB is a union of BMW owners yet we are still heard individually in each case.

Revolution brothers.. !!

lancelotII wrote: I agree, I think it would be far more beneficial to the members if frankly the club was a thorn in the side of BMW rather than being all cosied up to them (I am not saying this is the situation, but merely expressing an opinion). That way BMW may be more likely to jump through hoops if they knew any bad press was likely to get aired. I don't think it's a case of anyone wanting something for nothing, just real, genuine service that, at the end of the day, owners have paid for and deserve.

It's a tough one m8. If BMWCCGB moved further away from BMW then club discounts, dealer relations all go out the window. However it may be good if the club collates how many mbrs intend o buy new or nearly new BMW products this year and in the near future. £££ has been and will always be the main influential force. Pt being, would mbrs stand together and refuse to buy BMWs based on the strifes of the few. My faith in the human conscious is not that strong my friend. However I have pointed out that I'm down to buy a 47K X5 from BMW this summer and any shoddy attitude towards the M will not fall favourably, especially now there are a few viable alternatives and X5 waiting lists wont last forever. RR Sport Diesel anyone..

I do know however that the club commitee are raising issues with the BMW GB so let's hope for some progress. However I know that the BMW-Mondial warranty, for cars older than 6 years, will become a pointless exercise for the money.

I think the club needs to address older M cars as a very real issue with BMW given the high number of member/owners. A much better discount on labour/parts would be a good start. A specific 'M-scheme' for older M cars would show some confidence at BMW to support these specialised cars over the long-term, given they sell them to us with the prospect that they are fit for long-term use, or at least that's what we are led to believe at pt of sale.