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Doive
Really Senior Member II Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
Posted: 24-February-2005 at 10:43 | ||
Our current government is one huge lie. Take all the money off the motorist, penalise us for all sorts of ridiculous new legislation then claim it all in the name of 'road safety'. The fact of the matter is that Smiley Bliar wants to get as many cars off the roads as possible and get everyone shoehorned onto the inadequate buses and trains - possibility of working in central London, but perhaps not so applicable in the Scottish highlands? Never thought of that one did he? As someone pointed out recently in a classic car magazine, why should the owner of more than one car be made to pay out two or three times for tax and insurance? Surely road tax covers our right as individuals to use the public highways, not each car. Also could insurance companies not set in place a scheme where an individual is insured not the car? No, and here is why. 25 million vehicles on the roads of which perhaps 10 million are a second car in a household. 100 quid each lost in tax and there goes a billion pounds for the government. Same for insurance companies. Its all about money. |
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 24-February-2005 at 19:34 | ||
Thanks mate, already done it, but thank you anyway. Its not actually as comprehensive as the road angel, but good anyway. Just a little exercise for those that wish to join in, give me your reasons why you think speed cameras should be removed, and let me play devils advocate with you |
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:10 | ||
Because they are such a big distraction (you pay such close attention to them and your speedo while passing them) that it's the equivalent to driving 10MPH over the speed limit because you're not looking at the world around you. I know it's wrong for me to do this, but I do it. I can't help myself. I read of a case in the paper where the coroner said that this had contributed to someone's death in an RTA and that the camera in question should be removed. |
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:13 | ||
Because they de-emphasise every other aspect of safe driving. |
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:14 | ||
Because they are used as an excuse to get rid of traffic police.
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:17 | ||
Only where applicable, but many of them are sited for no other reason than to make money.
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Coasting
Really Senior Member II www.TOTALTORQUE.net Joined: 05-February-2005 Location: Not with the two-faced bloke. Status: Offline Points: 2125 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:19 | ||
None of the above bear credence of any form when compared to the in car distraction I had this morning. 1 mile from the office (approx.) - spot one of the girls from the office stood beside her car at the roadside. Clearly car problems. I stop and discover her car has ran out of petrol because she thought she'd make it to the Shell garage. So, I run her to the petrol station, get the fuel (she was well prepared I'll say that because she had a plastic fuel container with her, shame it was empty!) and we come back and I get her car started. What is so distracting about that? Well, she's, 24, 5'9" with the most perfect figure you can imagine, stunning bright blue eyes, natural blonde, and the legs are to die for. Now that is what I call a distraction. She's single too.....shame I'm not....lol |
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:20 | ||
Because they police something that, in the grand scheme of things, doesn't merit so much policing. The laws on speeding were made 40 years ago, and the capabilities of cars today are far superior to those of 40 years ago.
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:21 | ||
Right, here we go, ( I'm playing devils advocate to try and get some ideas, the answers I'm going to try and give are what I get from my local scamera partnership, and I'm running out of ideas ) Good for the coroner but.......this statement plays straight into the hands of the " hide it brigade ", if it wasnt visable, and you were also not allowed to detect it, it couldnt distract you, you'd just drive to the speed limit. |
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:22 | ||
Because they form part of a campaign to demonise the motorist and make criminals of us all.
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:23 | ||
And in conjunction with all my other comments? |
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:23 | ||
They do not, they merely enforce the law, and give you a generous margin of 10% + 2 mph, it is illegal to break the posted speed limit. |
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:25 | ||
Not at all, they are part of a campaign to highlight the dangers of exceeding the posted speed limit, which has been set to give as much safetly as possible to all road users. |
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:28 | ||
The amount of traffic police on our roads is a question for the chief constable of that area, he sets his priorities, speed cameras are there merely to enforce a speed limit on a stretch of road where tests have shown this limit is ignored |
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:30 | ||
They can only make money if you drive outside of the law, if people dont break the limit, the camera will generate no revenue. |
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Nigel
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Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:34 | ||
That is a matter of opinion, as they dont take up police time, in fact they free up officers to get on with other duties, and whilst the performance of the car has improved, the capabiliteis of the driver havent. |
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:34 | ||
There is almost no visible policing of any other aspect of safe driving. The overwhelming preponderence of scameras tells everyone "as long as you don't speed, we won't bother you". |
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Phillip
Senior Member I Joined: 16-August-2004 Location: Nantwich, Cheshire Status: Offline Points: 100 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:35 | ||
It seems dangerous sometimes to me..there you are driving along at 40 mph in a 40 mph limit and the muppet in front jams his brakes on because he sees a camera.. On the motorway (or better example the dual carrigeway) going along nicely at 70 mph and ..slam on the brakes because there is a car in front who has seen a camera and his initial reaction (before taking his eyes off the road YET AGAIN to check his speedo precisely) is to go for the brake. The only benefit I can see is the exciting challenge I get every day in that I see if I can get away with it again. |
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Philip
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:35 | ||
They do demoralise the motorist, as pointed out by the IAM, but the type of response you get to this is " dont break the speed limit, if you do then you are indeed a criminal". |
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 25-February-2005 at 03:37 | ||
Agreed Spokey, but how does that merit removing the camera ? |
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