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    Posted: 27-January-2005 at 15:25
Originally posted by _Tim_ _Tim_ wrote:


First you don't like my colour scheme, and then you insult my Caterham by calling it a Westfield!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-January-2005 at 18:32
......I up for giving technical advice on any E36 M3, just ask.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-January-2005 at 14:05

The opinion is was expressing isn't my own, its what i think occurs on these forums. Thats what I found.

You quite often get a thread being highjacked by two more 'experienced' users who ask each other questions that have nothing to do with the original thread.

I will quite gladly help out anyone who needs help if i can.

Anyway the thread starter attacked E36 M3 owners for not being helpful enough etc... Not everyone is technically minded and can help in that way.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-January-2005 at 13:57

As an e36 owner (and proud of it) I'd love a E30 M3 to go with it, but naturally the essential place would be in the garage. I could quite happily just sit and look at it for hours...... In order to do that and finance that, I would have to sell one or both of my bikes. They're not that good.. and....to be honest, a caterham would be better on the track.

I must also admit, my impression of the fact that some of the E30 owners seem so far stuck up their own rear ends in E30 snobbery it actually puts me off owning one to a degree. Its not helping anyone guys.

As a side issue has anyone used a stripped out e30 325 sport on the track, be interesting to see how close that would be to a pukka M....lots cheaper.....the E30 M3's are such a rarity, it almost seems a shame to risk them, but then OTOH, its what they are for?????

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-January-2005 at 13:57
Well it already is,sort of!
If this club dyno shootout comes off,I'll
be there!(with my NO2)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-January-2005 at 13:41
Is that something thats going in writing?
Gentlemen I may not have a brain but I do have an idea

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-January-2005 at 13:36
I think my Evo handles superbly,as did my last one.
Takes a while to get used to the body roll built into
the handling.I suspect E30 M3's have v. stiff susp,
as was the fashion at the time.
Iv'e driven a mate's 911(993) Carrera 2'S' and my M3 **** all over it.Evo can pull 1G in a corner too!
ps. If my silver one makes less than 300BHP I'll eat
a **** sandwich!It's blindingly quick!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-January-2005 at 12:49
Originally posted by David321 David321 wrote:

Plus in a discreet colour (not Dakar yellow...) it is pretty discreet and not too brash, unlike Subaru, Cossies etc.




David, IMO technoviolet is the best colour on the Evo unfortunately when I was looking I only saw 2 Evos in technoviolet, 1 with no service history and another without BMWsh or warranty.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-January-2005 at 10:59
I replaced my E30 M3 with an E36 Evo Saloon when my wife got an SLK. We needed something slightly more practical as an alternative to the SLK.

I really loved my E30 and every so often I look around to see if I can obtain another E30 to cherish.

I used to do all my own work on the E30. The E36 has an extended BMW warranty, so in the interests of preserving this BMW do all the servicing - though I often have to take printouts from the forum to them when I am describing something I want repaired....

The E36 is brilliant for motorways and carting people, not too bad in the handling (nothing is as much fun as an E30).

Most importantly it starts everytime.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-January-2005 at 07:45

Certainly an interesting post.

Andy, I "upgraded" from E30 baby M3 (318iS...) to E36 M3 firstly for some serious performance, secondly for some comfort whilst driving to Scotland and other far flung family and thirdly because 321bhp (or whatever amount it actually is) and no traction control was always going to be huge fun. Plus in a discreet colour (not Dakar yellow...) it is pretty discreet and not too brash, unlike Subaru, Cossies etc.

A conscious part of that descision for me was to spend a lot less time under the car fixing and replacing things, especially as the M3 is my only transport. I've certainly found the forum pretty helpful on a number of niggling items and lots of good money saving tips.

Only had the car a couple of months, but hopefully I can share what I learn about the car as I go on.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-January-2005 at 19:20
Well, this is certainly a nice lively debate
Never driven an M car yet, got close to buying an M5, but it got snaffled under my nose. Hey ho.

Had 2 E30's, a 316 coupé, and a 320i auto. loved em both despite their faults.
Got an E36 now, but couldn't shake the E30 thing (ti rear end runing gear based on an E30 )

So if you are in doubt what to go for if you cant make up your mind between an E30 or E36, then get an E36 compact , shove an M3 engine in it and it should go like a rocket (ti's weigh less than saloon)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-January-2005 at 16:09
Originally posted by DAWIEM3 DAWIEM3 wrote:

 


Peter,


I have never made an adverse comment against any E36 forum member. I have a view on the E36 and am entitled to it. Just as you prefer to roam the E30 tech forums.


A member wanted to provoke a responce from the E36 boys so now you have it.


I still stand by my comments posted earlier, as that is my honest opinion.  And if you asked my other half her opinion, she will tell you that she hates the E30 M3 and will never drive one.


I don`t get all upset and then spit my dummy out about it. We are all entitled to our own view on things.


But chew on this, If an E30 guy asked a question, I`m sure he would receive a number of replies, not necessary for the E36.


It is quite clear that the E30 boy`s are more active when it comes to the  forum.


I glad we have woken up the E36 lads and hopefully Andy will receive a few more responces to his posts.


Now I really hate that car. Where are the matches. ( Joke guys )


 


Enjoy. No hard feelings. Life is to short to get upset over Sh         it like this.  



Woken us up? Quite clear that the E30 boys are more active on the forum? You're just being too damn gracious. Hell do all E30 M3s come with self-polishing halo's as standard or as options?

Only joking.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-January-2005 at 15:31

DAWIEM3.......next time try sitting on the right when you drive the E36 M3..........Arms Out

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-January-2005 at 14:33

 

Peter,

I have never made an adverse comment against any E36 forum member. I have a view on the E36 and am entitled to it. Just as you prefer to roam the E30 tech forums.

A member wanted to provoke a responce from the E36 boys so now you have it.

I still stand by my comments posted earlier, as that is my honest opinion.  And if you asked my other half her opinion, she will tell you that she hates the E30 M3 and will never drive one.

I don`t get all upset and then spit my dummy out about it. We are all entitled to our own view on things.

But chew on this, If an E30 guy asked a question, I`m sure he would receive a number of replies, not necessary for the E36.

It is quite clear that the E30 boy`s are more active when it comes to the  forum.

I glad we have woken up the E36 lads and hopefully Andy will receive a few more responces to his posts.

Now I really hate that car. Where are the matches. ( Joke guys )

 

Enjoy. No hard feelings. Life is to short to get upset over Sh         it like this.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-January-2005 at 12:06
Originally posted by Peter Fenwick Peter Fenwick wrote:

Originally posted by DAWIEM3 DAWIEM3 wrote:


I own two E30 M3`s and one E36 M3 evo. I have had the EVO for 2 years now and just simply hate it. I don`t read posts on forums about them, as I have no intrest in E36`s. It only gets washed when the wife has nagged for weeks. It is just like having a Ford focus on the drive, common as terraced houses. 


 Arrogant, maybe.



This comment just sums up the impression that several of the E30 M3 owners who use this forum give. A severe distaste for the E36 M3 and anyone who owns one. Why not read the E36 posts? after all owning one you might be able to help someone, or are E36 owners so abhorant that you wouldn't want too? There have been posts about which is best that have just sounded like an excuse to tell the E36 owners how much better you car is than theirs and requests from the E30 owner's to have their own forum. I just don't get it.


I don't know whether it's intentional or not but some of you come accross as snobs who look down on anyone who doesn't own an E30 M3.


DawieM3, if I had my way i'd make you drive a Ford Focus for 10 years then you might appreciate being able to own an E36 M3 biggrin1


Oh and non of this means I don't like the original M3, far from it, I had posters of them on my walls when I was little.


 



Peter, you forgot the 3L vs Evo snobbery though it isnt as rife here as elsewhere.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-January-2005 at 12:00
Originally posted by _Tim_ _Tim_ wrote:

Originally posted by PikeyM3 PikeyM3 wrote:

And as you are a newbie Andy you can't expect peopel to just instantly respect you or help you out.


Trust and respect takes time. Give other people on the forum help
and advice first, then you can expect them to help and advise you.



Thats a joke, right? Or is this place really that far up it's own ****?


Every forum I think I've been on suffers on this to a greater or lesser degree, usually greater.

If its not cos people arent known on the forum then its about age/model of the car. Personally I'd say this forum is better than most

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-January-2005 at 11:50

I own an E30 M3 and do not look down on E36 M3's no way – I drove many of them (coupe, saloons, evo, non evo, conv etc)  they are totally great cars.  Just like the E30 M3 they are the best in their class/better than their competitors.  An E36 M3's competitors being an Audi A4 S4 Bi-turbo, Merc C36/43 etc.  And that’s all it has to do - be the best car in its class.  An E30 M3 is a different car in a different era - an E36 is better than an E30 in terms of straighline performance, comfort, space and all that but the E30 is a better than the E36 in terms of handling/steering/delicacy etc.  Just like a Clio 172 would be faster, more roomy etc than a 205 1.9 GTi.  They are just different – I wouldn’t say a 205 Gti is better than a 172 or vice versa – just different & incomparable.  I wonder do Merc 2.5 16V drivers and C36 drivers have the same argument/discussions as people on this forum?  I suspect not ;)

 

One thing I do dislike about E36 M3's is nothing to do with the car but where I live I see young 18yr olds driving/’diffing’ them without insurance etc and that annoys the hell outta me!  Whereas I have my E30 fully legal taxed, insured and all that crap yet I'm the one who get caught for minor traffic offences and get points etc whereas these yobos get away with it.  Grrrrrr  Nothing to do with an E36 M3 btw just some owners ;-)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-January-2005 at 11:36
I wasn't being childish, I was just trying to work out why he says one
thing and does another

As for why I bought one, I had a test drive of one and fell in love. (If I
test drove an E30 first I might be driving one now but I didn't so I'm
not.) The sheer power and great handling did it for me not the
number of horses under the bonnet as long as it still goes well I'm
not bothered about getting it on the rollers.
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