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mc50 
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Joined: 25-September-2004 Status: Offline Points: 36 |
 Posted: 23-January-2005 at 10:01 |
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http://www.quarrybmwspares.co.uk/index.html The above breakers have a 3.2 engine,ecu & gearbox for about £3000.
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mogart1
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Joined: 01-February-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 90 |
Posted: 22-January-2005 at 18:58 |
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Thanks Dave, No , no warning at all...in fact checked the oil the day before and it was bob on the full mark after 4k miles! No oil light, light always went off immediately, can't see any obvious damage to cooler or sump....mystery.... The TIS CD's do they really have all the neccessary data? I got one a while back, and ended up chucking it because it was very light on any info at all...unless I got ripped off with a 'light' version. The only thing there was was a kind of diagnosis routine, which was totally dumbed down and all the pictures were just generic bmw's...... |
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bhp555
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Joined: 16-February-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 176 |
Posted: 22-January-2005 at 18:31 |
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mogart 1, Firstly sorry to hear of your bad news........it's the first one I've heard of, I have to say, did you notice any oil leaks before or any tell tail signs before hand, oil light slow going off?? Did you ground the sump or put a stone through the oil cooler?? Wouldn't waste your time with a Bentley manual, the US M3 is nothing like yours with regrads to the engine. Go to ebay and buy a TIS CD rom, it's all on there. Dave. |
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mogart1
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Posted: 22-January-2005 at 14:29 |
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Had a closer look today. but still can't find the hole, but found lots of block fragments!! I think its tucked under the the inlet manifold. Not got time (or space) to look at it properly until I finish project 'Rusty Land Rover Discovery'. I did however speak to the local BM dealers, who also said this failure was unheard of....I had a glimmer of hope from them regarding help, but in the end they said the car is just too old for them to cover. Very courteous and sympathetic though (no laughter) - imagine the same conversation with other brands!! Can't wait to try and find out the root cause, but just going to have to wait. In the meantime waiting for quotes for s/h engines to roll back in from all the web breakers - and a cost for a short block from BM. How much is common on the bottom end with the 2.8's? Also I will need a workshop manual, and todays search only found the Bentlley manual which covers the US M3, appears is a completely different engine (S50B30US v S50 B30...see http://www.bcw3design.com/m3/us_euro_faq.htm ) Only really annoying thing is....adding insult to injury, I checked the tyres were is was brought on and off the recovery truck, and found a cut in the sidewall, so I will have to get on to the AA on that. (Can do without a further £100+ for another Mich Pilot) |
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SundayJumper
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Joined: 03-July-2004 Location: West Berkshire Status: Offline Points: 220 |
Posted: 22-January-2005 at 11:39 |
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Ouch... that's going to make me even more worried about driving mine now ! I guess it shouldn't be too difficult to source a replacement engine, and it'll be a straight swap. Post up some pics if you can, as others have said AFAIK this is a very very rare failure. Steve. |
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Sundayjumper - now with added 328 Sport
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MONO
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Joined: 04-August-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 560 |
Posted: 21-January-2005 at 16:41 |
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Thats not good news!!! feelin for you dude, that can be good....... I hope you get it sorted out okay.... its strange why it went as it is the first I have heard.... the only time I have heard of this is from a missed gear.... like 5th to 2nd.... Unless the car has had some engine work in the past.... you never know with second hand motors.... they always seem to have secrets... |
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mogart1
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Joined: 01-February-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 90 |
Posted: 21-January-2005 at 15:15 |
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HI there, thanks for the sympathy, no its totally standard. I was going flat out just about to change up to 3rd, no wheel spin, and the engine oil was nice and warm. I've had the car for a year and its only had one previous owner (A Professor in fact), so am very surprised of this failure, the car is really straight and has been immaculately kept, which is normally a sign its not been abused (too much for an M). I'll certainly talk to BM, but with the car being 10 years old......however, they changed my big brothers '96 528 block under warranty just last month so you never know! I do have an RAC warranty with it, but I think that's linited to £500 max...so it maybe cheaper to change the engine myself, but I will investigate all avenues!!!
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therealmccoy
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Joined: 27-April-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 552 |
Posted: 21-January-2005 at 15:05 |
The only time I have ever heard of that happening was when someone decided to play in puddles with their 3.0 M3... |
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M3AG
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7 series & e36 m3 registrar! (Madness) Joined: 17-October-2002 Location: Good Old Hertfordshire Status: Offline Points: 1644 |
Posted: 21-January-2005 at 15:00 |
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that must be quite a rare failure, as it's got full BMW service etc, was it covered under a warranty? It will be interesting to hear what BMW think of the failure.
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EvoDude
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Zymol + Optimax Rock!! Joined: 30-April-2004 Location: Southampton, Hampshire Status: Offline Points: 292 |
Posted: 21-January-2005 at 14:41 |
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Oh dear...dont tell me storie like that. Mines not going to see over 3.5k RPM now....thats quite unusual for them to pop. Have you had any modifications?? |
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mogart1
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Joined: 01-February-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 90 |
Posted: 21-January-2005 at 14:24 |
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Hi guys, Just experienced a catastrophic failuire... 6500 rpm 2nd gear and whoooof, clatter clatter and lots of smoke everywhere Pulled over into a convenient lay-by, and noticed a large puddle of oil, and a trail about level with the centre of the passenger seat. Further investiation whilst waiting fro AA's finest, I could just make out some fragments of block on the lower RHS of the engine, oh and lots of oil.....so presumably either I've got a snapped con rod or lost a bearing cap. Not looked any further tonight because its too cold outside! Anyone heard of this happening on S50's? The car has 94k on it (with full BM history)....? I was under the impression the 3.0 S50's were pretty robust. I'll assess the extent of things tomorrow. Meanwhile, I think I could do with a beer or 3... |
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