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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-August-2005 at 15:23
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-August-2005 at 15:36

Was at the ring on monday 1st august on a public day, It was wet!! for the first couple of laps, at least it kept the bikers in the car park. Shame the coach didnt stay there, caught it at a great overtaking spot though.

I did get a video of a whole lap though, was chasing one of our group in his Z1.

I'm still toying with attending this event next year, for a 3 day intensive ring experience, only time will tell if I will be able to or not. Hope everyone going has a great time, have made 3 visits to the ring over the last 3 years, and yes it is addictive.

Spokey mind the bridge!  



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-August-2005 at 15:46

Spokey mind the bridge!  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05-August-2005 at 15:56
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Please share the joke, PM me if it is not for general viewing

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-August-2005 at 04:34
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Please share the joke, PM me if it is not for general viewing


I think he means this
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-August-2005 at 06:29
Spokey- Opps, not a joke, sorry to hear about the car but very pleased you are ok.

Looks like the weather at the 'ring will be cooler than last year. I hope the showers don't turn into the monsoon thunderstorm we had last year which caused the Tuesday afternoon free lapping to be cancelled. That was a sensible decision.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06-August-2005 at 12:40

I will be travelling over with another E30 M3 - Grant's going too now

Try out his new suspension set up

We are both on the 815am on sunday from Dover - we will be leaving Newbury at 430am.......................to allow extra time for security and traffic

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-August-2005 at 16:37
Originally posted by B 7 VP B 7 VP wrote:

 Nothing---------------Unless YOU decide to run off the super surfaced track.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-August-2005 at 16:41
Originally posted by SG535d SG535d wrote:

I'll be the one choking everyone with the diesel fumes



Laydeez and Gennelmen! We have a new routinier!

"Scottish" gassed so many of the judges that they couldn't read the score sheets and they gave all Chris Rossiter's marks to Steve!

A big thumbs up to Steve, I went on the skid pan in his smelly monster and his car control was awesome!

PS Steve, I managed not to tell everyone about the time you went on the the skidpan with the DSC on!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-August-2005 at 16:51
Originally posted by texas2201 texas2201 wrote:

I will be travelling over with another E30 M3 - Grant's going too now



I took your advice, and the day off. I'm even perkier now!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-August-2005 at 17:11
Spokey

Sounds like Steve has a new career opportunity, what points did he get?

Can you give us a summary of the 3 days, did you enjoy it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-August-2005 at 18:03
Well, it was an interesting experience: got up at some obscene hour on Sunday AM and pootled down to Birchanger to hook up with Gyrock in his CSL. We drove down to the Eurotunnel and got to France bright and early.

After an interminable journey across Belgium (why is it so big, and why are the roads worse than ours? ) we finally got onto the Autobahn, albeit briefly. I still don't know what V.Max is in the Z1, with the roof up I got to 140MPH and she was still pulling, but I ran out of road. Later on with the roof down, I got her over 130MPH, but also still pulling. Amazingly stable at those speeds too!

(Gyrock just disappeared over the horizon!)

We then decided to tour down the Rhine from Koblenz to Mainz, which was pretty, although I was expecting a lot more from the way some people raved about it. In Mainz we got back on the Autobahn (which looked like the M25 on a Monday morning ) and headed back up to the Eifel region. We got off the motorway as soon as possible and took a marvellous A-road to Nurburg.

When we got to the 'ring, it was open for public laps, and Gyrock decided he wanted to go out, so we did. I then ventured out on my first ever lap too. But we decided not to spoil anything for the training, and went to check into the hotel.

The first night was spent meeting the other people in our groups and after a few "Bits", we went to bed.

Monday dawned wet and cold, and we headed off to the track, where we met our instructor, a skinny, bespectacled chap with the demeanour of a librarian, called Andy Bovensiepen. Andy's dad founded Alpina, and Andy was a racing driver for many years. He may have looked diffident, but Andy is a formidable teacher, and the most impressive driver I've seen for decades. We headed off to Fuchsrohre and started our training.

Unfortunately, I didn't feel very confident with my Z1 in the wet -- after a lot of discussion I've decided to try new tyres over the next year and will hopefully be going to the 'ring next year with better ones. I'm here to tell you that I nearly left after the free laps on Monday -- I have never been so scared of my own car before! In fact, the only reason that I didn't jump in my car and go home, was that the (^*%^%%%^%(&£"£"$ thing broke down at the Karussel!

Ironically, this left me with some of my best memories of the trip, though, listening to Gyrock's CSL, Mark Safe's B7 ETA and Andy's B5 Alpina fighting for the award for the best noise produced by a car under duress.

So I then spent the rest of Monday trying to arrange for BMW Emergency Assistance to pick up the pieces. Tuesday was spent cadging the odd lap with Andy -- just when I got over my fear, I started getting carsick! Took me two hours to recover! BMW came to my rescue, though -- they very kindly provided me with a Citroen Xsara Picasso to replace my Z1 while they repaired it! I was too embarrassed to be seen with the Picasso, so I went off sightseeing.

Evenings were mostly spent at the Pistenklause -- very jolly, and highly recommended.

Wednesday was very stressful -- waiting to hear if my car was fixed, then racing over to fetch it ("racing" being very much a metaphor in a Xsara Picasso! ) and dashing back to the track in the hope of squeezing in a last few free laps. When I got back to the course, there was a garbage truck blocking the entrance, and when I got through the marshals wouldn't let me onto the track! After gesticulating wildly at them, they realised I was allowed on the track and I managed to squeeze in a reasonable lap, followed by a really "committed" lap which saw me spin the car after Kallenhard and stop inches away from the armco!

John Safe came past, wagged his finger at me, and like a chastened puppy I followed him in. So, after a grand total of five laps in the wet that scared me more than The Shining, and two laps in the dry (featuring an off), and two laps with Andy with my eyes closed and two retching out of the window, I had to face my evaluation lap!

And weirdly, despite everything that had gone wrong, and the pressure, I finally enjoyed a lap! I said then that I didn't mind what my score was, because I really enjoyed it. Just as well that I can stick to that, because my score was horrifying.

I guess I'll just have to try again next year.

After the course was over and the public lapping started again, I did three more laps and loved them. I was like a schoolboy when I got into a lap with a 3.0 Alfa (GTA?) behind me -- he clearly had the legs on me in the straights, but because he wasn't following the racing line, he would only catch me just before the next corner, so I held him off for an entire lap.

Sorry miss, I won't do it again!

The drive home was a delight, all the way up to the M20, where the manners became as bad as those found on public days at the 'ring.

There are some caveats if you're thinking of going to the 'ring on a public day and you haven't done it before:

1. If it's wet, be careful. Be more careful than you have ever been in your entire life.
2. The manners of the testosterone addicts who pitch at public times can be a little lacking. Keep your eyes on your mirrors often.
3. Don't do more than one lap at a time -- your adrenaline could get you into a lot of trouble.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-August-2005 at 18:22
Great write up.

Sorry to hear you had trouble with the Z1. Andy is indeed an awesome driver and not waht you expect when yo first meet him.

The 'ring in the wet is a force not to fight. Glad to hear you kept it out of the barriers which are so so close.

Like me you found the real benefit is knowing the right lines and being able to lap safely quicker than more powerful cars.

Your tips at the end of your report are right on the button.

Sleep well

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-August-2005 at 18:40
Andy scared me nearly to death.  He can go some, though, I must say.

One of my lingering memories was him getting the jump on Gyrock going up Kesselchen and watching a fully loaded 5-series outrun an M3 CSL!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-August-2005 at 18:52
Last he had the B7 Alpina and that was awesome  upto to Hohe Acht with Andy correcting the power slides up the hill !!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11-August-2005 at 19:07
Nurburgschloss stands guard:



Gruppe funf lines up:



Steve (group 5 winner) shows us how to cope with beer goggles:



A brand new 3er gets trashed so that we can learn how to use the armco to slow us down:



Gyrock learns how to control oversteer:



The only view most people will see of the B5:



Automotive porn:



Andy gets ready to take Gyrock out for a "gentle, relaxed" lap:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12-August-2005 at 14:16
Excellent write up Spokey,  We have just got home,  had a few more scary public laps yesterday.  Yet again it was a fantastic course, and Mark achieved his goal and stood on the podium with the routiniers, with a very big grin on his face .  Steve did fantastically well as did our second and third placed members of the group . 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15-August-2005 at 06:45
Can't wait for next years trip.... pink slip signed and stored safely!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-August-2005 at 03:07

Originally posted by spokey spokey wrote:


PS Steve, I managed not to tell everyone about the time you went on the the skidpan with the DSC on!

Cheers Spokey - keep it between us, yip?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16-August-2005 at 03:13

Originally posted by kevin kevin wrote:

Spokey

Sounds like Steve has a new career opportunity, what points did he get?

62 points Kevin, but I think the group was pretty evenly matched - most of the group had pretty similar scores within a few points of each other (apart from John and Mark of course!)

The course was fantastic, and I'll definitely be going next year. My wife suggested she could take her Citreon C3 round herself, I think she was joking  but will try and persuade her to come along next year.

I particularly found it useful following John round on the open laps, boy was it fun when he upped the pace

See you all at Gaydon



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