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    Posted: 30-November-2004 at 04:28
Just wondering if any of you have chipped an E30 316i, and if you saw any benefits? I'm thinking of getting a chip but don't want to buy something that has no benefit or does long term damage to the engine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-November-2004 at 05:29

Chipping won't damage the engine in anyway.

Power increase on a 316 won't be huge, but drivability will be improved and also mpg can be improved.

Ask chippeduk about it, the chips are chip as..... err chips!!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-December-2004 at 04:08
Thanks, I was thinking of something like the Venom chip but just wandered about chipping the 316i in general. Car is totally standard at the moment.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-December-2004 at 07:04

The only thing you might improve with a good quality chip would be the driveability of the car, maybe make it smoother.  You'd be lucky to see much of a noticable power increase, although some will probably claim 10hp gains or something which is not true.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 08:40

6hp is possible on this car.

thats a fact.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 08:40

ohh, and it is noticable.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 09:56

What performance wise you're telling me 6hp will make a difference?

Ignoring the smoothing of the power curve, just the addition of 6hp.

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 10:01

I`m saying that the drivability and performance will be noticed yes.

If you added 6hp too a 300hp M3 you wouldnt notice it but on a lower powered 1.6 you will.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03-December-2004 at 11:04
...plus a bigger elastic band.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2004 at 12:48
@chippeduk, paul3251i, dave328,

Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated.

@Rhys,
There is no need to slag off other people's motors. I well aware of the limitations of the 316i, I have owned it for the last 8 years. I'm just looking for some impartial advice on how to improve the cars driveability.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2004 at 13:00

kevin, i dont think he was dissin your car mate, it is his freaky sence of humour thats all.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2004 at 14:59
Maybe I'm being a little sensitive at the moment. There's jobs that need doing on the car and I can't get a spare minute. Roll on the Xmas holidays...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04-December-2004 at 19:15
Originally posted by Rhys Rhys wrote:


There is no need to slag off other people's motors. I well aware of the limitations of the 316i, I have owned it for the last 8 years. I'm just looking for some impartial advice on how to improve the cars driveability.


I wasn't slaggin' your car off.. In fact, as I said, I used to have a 316 n/a, bottom of the range, rattled and shook at 70, rotten to bits due to being in a flood, the paint was holding te rust together...but it was my first car and spent months doing her up, more weld than the glasgow docks and was still sprouting mushrooms a year later (engine was sweet as a nut tho' at 89k on a B reg). I loved that car, and put a tear in my eye when I saw it in a scrap yard one day. If you have taken it the wrong way, I appologise, but no offence meant.

As for Jayson (chippeduk) I can recomend him, he a decent bloke who can make a difference to your motor. You could also look at getting a big bore throttle body and an induction kit, I had a Piper Cross on my E30 320i, and it was quite nice. You could also look at getting an eibach/bilstein setup, which would improve the ride over stock suspension.

One thing I would say tho' If you want to get in touch with Jayson, is to ring him as he gets loads of e-mails, and his pm box is usually full..

As said before, no offence meant, I'm only having a laugh..


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-December-2004 at 14:19
Where are these chips obtained from? Would not BMW have already have placed a chip to offer the optimum perforance and fuel economy ratio.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07-December-2004 at 14:31

www.chippeduk.com

 

the reason bmw didnt do them is they were given high insurance groupings so lowered the power to sell more cars.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-December-2004 at 07:06

And as BMW sell to a wide market they have to cover different grades of fuel, we have 95+ octane, other countries have as low as 81 octane. If the car was tuned to run on 95+ it would have probably the best power (this is what chippeduk maps the parameters to, so gaining power), but if it was shipped to a country where 81 was only available you'd have a pretty knackered engine thru detonation and loads of 'pinking'. Also they are retarded for poor maintenance.

Japan has 100 octane, thats why performance imports like Subaru Imprezas suffer from pinking and have to add an octane booster to get back up to the 100 available in Japan. A UK Impreza will be tuned to suit UK fuel.

This probably also why BMWs benefit more from a chip/remap as they are more retarded to cope with a wider market then say Peugeot (which don't give as bigger benefit) as these cars are generally sold in europe where octane is better and thus tuned to run on a higher octane.

My car would have run on a low octane fuel, but now I've had a remap it probably wouldn't do well. The knock sensors will adjust timing to suit different ranges of fuels, but there is only so much they can adjust, so a chip/remap moves the adjustable parameters up the scale, so using the higher octane fuel available will give a better benefit and the fuel will be burnt more efficiently.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-December-2004 at 07:12
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-December-2004 at 07:16
Would I get commission or that ICV you said you had. ;)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-December-2004 at 09:49

Do you guarantee your chips Jayson? Say if one were to be faulty or the increased rev limit you offer on some were to mean terminal failure of an engine you'd be liable for the entire cost to repair. 

Also you refer to 'ChippedUK' as a company, are you running a partnership or are you sole trading? I see no ChippedUK in the Limited companies register so i'm assuming you're not actual a company.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08-December-2004 at 10:08

How would you know that the chip had caused the failure? Unless the engine was either new or had been thoroughly inspected before the chip was fitted. If it was me I wouldn't offer a warranty, at least not on the engine dying. After all Jason could sell a chip by post to someone who's car he has never seen, if the engine was already tired it could be due to fail anyway. I doubt any of the bigger chip companies offer such a warranty either, unless you could prove conclusively that the failure was caused by the chip, which I suspect is very difficult.

 

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