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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-December-2004 at 10:29

Eh.......you cannot compare a Group A / DTM  race car to a standard road car.......I think you'll find the geometry and components are all different.........

Everyone has their own thoughts though

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-December-2004 at 10:22
Originally posted by MCC1 MCC1 wrote:

I'll give my tuppence worth - I have the std 15"  BBS wheels on my E30 M3 and would definitely NEVER stick on a set of 18" - for various reasons. 

Plus it'll totally ruin the handling of you M3 - these cars weren’t designed to run on 18" wheels.  If you lower it, it'll make it even worse and will most like damage you car if you are driving it hard.  I like to break traction as much as possible, the M3 is an excellent handling car and that’s why I bought it, for reaching the limit & sliding in a controllable manner.   Not for outright speed or cornering grip (buy a 4WD car if that’s what you want)  but for handling balance and with narrower tyres it easier to get the car to slide.  I know you can still fo it with wider tyres but it's much easier with narrow ones for the cars power. 

 

Beg to differ there, so what size rims did some of the E30 ///M3 DTM cars run on... ????????????????????????????????????????????????????

         18"s 

OK there full on race cars, but thats where our ///M3's technology came from, the race track...

So i would say that somewhere down the line that they were designed for 18", or how could it be ?

 

And as for the other chap, comparing an ///M3 on 18" to a XR2I

 

Thankyou please   and Merry Chrismas        &nbs p;         &nbs p;         &nbs p;     And Good Will to all E30 ///M3 owners...       

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-December-2004 at 09:23
I tend to agree.

But I'll add that 18's will tear your bushes to pieces as well. It will also transmit more load on to your steering rack as well. That was an expensive nightmare to replace on when I had my E30.

While 18's might look sporty and extreme (though I am beginning to think 'extreme XR2i') I think you'll find they do nothing but harm to the dynamics of your car.

Remember when the E46 was launched they said that even though most people would probably go for the optional 19's, 18's were much better suited to our roads in the UK...

Not recommended, but if you must...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-December-2004 at 08:38

I'll give my tuppence worth - I have the std 15"  BBS wheels on my E30 M3 and would definitely NEVER stick on a set of 18" - for various reasons.

One being it'll ruin the ride - esp. with 35 section tyres.  

Another meaning it will tramline badly on road imperfections (which I really hate - this will make the car a lot slower in normal roads as the steering will be all over the place). 

Plus it'll DEFINETLY dent your acceleration - this is a fact, anyone who try to claim counter is simply wrong.

Another reason would be the cost of tyres, 15" tyres are dead cheap - 18" one isn’t.

Plus it'll totally ruin the handling of you M3 - these cars weren’t designed to run on 18" wheels.  If you lower it, it'll make it even worse and will most like damage you car if you are driving it hard.  I like to break traction as much as possible, the M3 is an excellent handling car and that’s why I bought it, for reaching the limit & sliding in a controllable manner.   Not for outright speed or cornering grip (buy a 4WD car if that’s what you want)  but for handling balance and with narrower tyres it easier to get the car to slide.  I know you can still fo it with wider tyres but it's much easier with narrow ones for the cars power.  

Plus you don’t want to be putting 18" rear tyres on your car too often -cost again.

I also don’t think 18" wheels look right on an E30 M3, make the car look slightly over wheeled.  Modern cars (like an E46) suit big wheels.

I don't intend to change the wheels in my car but if I was it would be 16" max.  17's look grand but I feel even these would spoil the handling

all IMHO

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01-December-2004 at 07:07
Darryl,

Your rims look awesome!

Went for wheels last night - looked absolutely amazing on 18's. 16" BBS are nice but dont cut it against the 18.

Uwe was right with 225/40 rubbing at the front. We tried 225/35 and it was ok.

255/35/18 on the rear was too wide, so we went for 245/35/18 instead.

Tyres are Falken FK-451 all round.

Collection and fitting this evening!

P.s - Can you still lower the car with 18's?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-November-2004 at 13:19

Curtis at Powerstation had his M3 on 18's. Personally I thought they looked a bit big, but maybe it is just the look of the rim.

But darylzimm3's rims look sweet!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-November-2004 at 12:33
Im also running 18"'s with 225/35 tyres, no probs here either....cant say ive noticed the accelration as the car had the wheels when bought.....and nobody has let me had a drive of theres... but mine will be slower than a lot of other anyway......its a converts and ive got the hard top on aswell
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the black with the BBS CH wheels in front of you. We spoke about your engine rebuild.
E61 520d, slow and buzzy but my wallet likes the mpg.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-November-2004 at 08:39

Hi UweM3

Yes the engines all finished now, had it mapped 3 weeks ago very happy with the results.

Alpha n makes such a big differance, well that and the cams etc

Its so so powerful, and the noise from the plenum is awesome, but its not too loud, just enough to scare old ladys...   ( which i have done )

which car was yours at ML ? 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-November-2004 at 08:15

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REZAQ  My 18"  225/35/18

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-November-2004 at 08:10
Originally posted by darylzimm3 darylzimm3 wrote:

 


 


Are you talking of Drag Strips? And 266bhp is that with Nitro or without?[/QUOTE]


 


" WITHOUT "  add another 75bhp for the n2o !!!!!!!!!!    


 


 

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How is you engine doing so far after the rebuild?
Have you done some miles since we meet at ML?From the picture I take it you have got you Alpha-N sorted now. What is your experience so far?


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Are you talking of Drag Strips?
And 266bhp is that with Nitro or without?[/QUOTE]

 

" WITHOUT "  add another 75bhp for the n2o !!!!!!!!!!   

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-November-2004 at 07:07
Darryl,

thats the information i was after!!

thanks a bunch guys for all your input.

i am sure it will look great with the 18's - i havent seen anyone running the latest e46 style alpina on an e30 yet.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-November-2004 at 05:23
Originally posted by GT6-M3 GT6-M3 wrote:

My old triumph {is} soon(ish) to be reborn with 17" wheels which have pretty much the same rolling radius.

 

From your username, I wonder if you are rebuilding it with a 6 cylinder M3 powerplant?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30-November-2004 at 05:09
Darryl

I see you've fitted your Carbon airbox



Looks very cool.

On a side note, is there a full spec list for your car anywhere?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-November-2004 at 17:36
Originally posted by darylzimm3 darylzimm3 wrote:

       ( No ones getting past me)  " but 266bhp helps "


                                            Hope this helps



Are you talking of Drag Strips?
And 266bhp is that with Nitro or without?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-November-2004 at 17:21

Ouch.... thats like over £150 a tyre!!!

Rather you than me mate!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-November-2004 at 16:35

Rezaq,

I run 18" wheels with 225/35/18's all around.

I have no problems with fouling of arches, full lock is fine, my abs works, i have not lost any acceleration, and it handles like it's on rails...   

Also the speedo is spot on, unless me gps is wrong... !!!!!!

In all, no problem in 2 years of having 18's on my ///M3

       ( No ones getting past me)  " but 266bhp helps "

                                    Hope this helps

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-November-2004 at 10:36
Originally posted by rr_ww rr_ww wrote:



There is a search function, so like S14 are always banging on. Use it. Chances are the info is still relevant.

Rich, I agree but I also think we can be a bit more relaxed about it and help by answering the question and including a link to the relevant earlier thread. S14 has a very specific, focussed topic whereas here there are similar components across the ranges which people might not be aware of.

Just my thought.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29-November-2004 at 08:54
Rezaq, think we'll need to rename you the "Wheels and Tyres kid" (regardless of how old you are ) As a little advice try the Search function, both on here and S14.net or try and contain all the info in 1 thread. Makes it much easier to read too.

Originally posted by GT6-M3 GT6-M3 wrote:

P.s. Why do people on this forum get so narky!?


Theres a question Just that a lot of the advice is repeated fairly regularly.

Off the top of my head its
Wheel/Tyre combos,
any form of ignition or cooling fault,
Water ingress,
Carbon Airboxes/Alpha N

etc etc

There is a search function, so like S14 are always banging on. Use it. Chances are the info is still relevant.

Not a dig btw
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