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johnny baur
Groupie Joined: 05-November-2004 Location: northern ireland Status: Offline Points: 79 |
Topic: please help! bad e30 footwell leaks Posted: 22-November-2004 at 06:27 |
Please some info! I noticed a lot of water in the footwells(and damp carpets) on both sides and soaked this up. after blasting with a hose from below it seemed to be ok - no leaks from arches as suspected. However The car has been sitting for about two weeks in heavy rain - and now there is serious water in footwells.I have discovered the water comes from above. Two trails of water coming down from behind the dash on its farthest extremities, and down the inside metal of the wheel arches where it encroaches into the footwell. There appears to be some foamy stuff way under the dash at the far edges and it is soaking. Where is the water coming from? I took the vents off ,from in front of the windscreen, but i cant see rust or anything in there.The battery tray appears a little damp too. (By the way carpets are pulled back and i don't have air con)
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dave 328
Really Senior Member II Joined: 21-October-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 835 |
Posted: 22-November-2004 at 06:57 |
Does sound like a rain leak, unless your toping the coolant up every week. The usual place is the windscreen seal or drainage hols on the bulk head. Check grommets and pipes in the bulk head. |
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Madrab
Really Senior Member II Joined: 21-November-2003 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 569 |
Posted: 22-November-2004 at 08:31 |
Look for a hole at the top of the wing at the bulkead, in the landing panel where the wiper motor is situated. Both sides. The water can gather here and if it cannot drain can eventually run inside the seal and down the side of the footwell. The bottom of the windscreen seal is another area. It can then drip onto the ECU, found this out when mine wouldn't start one day, it had leaked inside the ECU and shorted out! Rob |
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Nostrils
Really Senior Member II Joined: 27-October-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 792 |
Posted: 22-November-2004 at 08:42 |
This link could help tooS14.net
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Phil
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johnny baur
Groupie Joined: 05-November-2004 Location: northern ireland Status: Offline Points: 79 |
Posted: 22-November-2004 at 12:01 |
Thanks guys will be checking those areas.. Some
more info for you - I took the seats and carpets out today and i looked way under the dash at the bulkhead, from inside. Up under the dash towards, the top right corner, on the drivers side, part of a square metal box (underneath a foam insulating stuff) slightly protrudes into this area. This is soaked through. Is this corner part of the battery tray coming into the car at this point? I notice the lower edge of this metal box is corroded slightly and damp . Can you confirm what part of the car i might be looking at with that description?? BTW - The dampness is apparent on the passenger side bulkhead insulation behind a mass of wires. Almost impossible to get at i imagine..? cheers again |
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Nostrils
Really Senior Member II Joined: 27-October-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 792 |
Posted: 22-November-2004 at 16:02 |
Hi Johnny, not sure that this would be part of the battery tray. That square metal box, does it look anything like... this - Its a control unit which IIRC has some foam around the top of it - Mine 'blew-up' when it had some water ingress....£600 for a new one, ouch! Whilst you have all the bits off, you should do a leak test with someone adding water to windscreen in that area and watch for any drips.... |
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325i Ron
Really Senior Member I Joined: 26-February-2003 Location: Bristol Status: Offline Points: 286 |
Posted: 22-November-2004 at 17:49 |
There is a drain tube that gets blocked and will cause the problem you have I will try to explain where it is.
Lift the bonnet look just past the battery and along the bulkhead is a black insulation panel with cables cliped to it. You will find a "flat" drain tube about 4" long it is attached to the bulkhead pull it of and clear out the muck. This is the main drain from the grills by the whipers. If you cant find it give me a ring 01179406930. Ron |
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johnny baur
Groupie Joined: 05-November-2004 Location: northern ireland Status: Offline Points: 79 |
Posted: 23-November-2004 at 04:32 |
thanks again, - i'll get another few hours at the coal
face today! In relation to the above diagram, there is no way you could see if it looks like this. I am looking at a corner of a square 'box' from below. How do you put up a picture like phil did? i could take a happy snap! What is the IIRC? |
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Nick
Bavarian-Board Contributor BMWCC Area Organiser Yorks & Humber Joined: 21-October-2002 Location: God’s own county... Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 1319 |
Posted: 23-November-2004 at 06:51 |
..it's not the sunroof drain holes is it?
If they get blocked you end up with wet footwells. |
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johnny baur
Groupie Joined: 05-November-2004 Location: northern ireland Status: Offline Points: 79 |
Posted: 23-November-2004 at 07:03 |
not sunroof. it is a baur cabrio. it has two drains in
roof area but they seem ok, and that 4in hose drain in engine bay was fairly clean , but there was a little dirt. i have photos of the suspect area in the drivers side. can i put them up? |
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johnny baur
Groupie Joined: 05-November-2004 Location: northern ireland Status: Offline Points: 79 |
Posted: 23-November-2004 at 09:19 |
i've run water over the screen and into the grille/wiper
area, and the water runs out onto the ground and also out of the pipe in the engine /bulkhead area - so i assume this means those are clear. |
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johnny baur
Groupie Joined: 05-November-2004 Location: northern ireland Status: Offline Points: 79 |
Posted: 23-November-2004 at 13:35 |
RE: Nostrils Post - That was the battery tray! Took the
battery out. There is a slot about 3in long across and 3/4in deep completely corroded through at the back of the tray. It goes right through into the footwell where i saw the metal 'box'. That 'box' was the back side of the tray. Obviously water comes through that hole, but actually not convinced this is the whole problem. Now wondering how water has gotten onto the battery tray long before i got the car. water is/was getting under the bonnet, and onto the tray somehow. still got my passenger well problem tho. |
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Nigel
Moderator Group Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
Posted: 23-November-2004 at 18:50 |
[/QUOTE] That looks rather like the cpu from my scrapped E34 525i, £600 ?, they wouldnt happen to be the same unit would they, the car, like my present one was M20 engined. If its worth horrid amounts of money I might put it somehwre safe, its just lying around in my workshop at the moment. |
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Best Wishes
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Madrab
Really Senior Member II Joined: 21-November-2003 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 569 |
Posted: 24-November-2004 at 07:34 |
You can get 2nd hand ECU's from the breaker? Try FAB Direct, they quote £125 for an M20 325 ECU. I got a 2nd hand one for £50 from M-TEK supplies in Glasgow, may be worth a try? Rob |
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