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635CSi ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-March-2007 Status: Offline Points: 683 |
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Ah now, c'mon! Everybody can afford a BMW of some sort, sure I was once offered an E30 for free. Just because you drive a BMW doesn't mean you have to be so smug about it. I actually pity someone who bombs down the road in a brand new 3 Series, it shows they are lacking something that the person in the SAAB 9-3 next to them has! ![]() |
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635CSi ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-March-2007 Status: Offline Points: 683 |
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The power of understatement! ![]() |
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larzyh ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 25-February-2007 Location: Limerick Status: Offline Points: 633 |
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Interesting notion that the "rarity" of the IS is a plus-point. There are many BMW's on our roads because they have a strong brand image and make some quite good cars. The fact that there are a lot of them about does not make them any less good! Saab used to make interesting cars... Larzyh. |
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Larzyh.
Previously or currently, in the family: '77 E21 320, '78 E21 320, '79 E21 320, '87 E28 520i, '88 E30 325iC, '95 E34 525i, '98 E39 528i, '98 Z3 2.5, '98 E38 740iL, '95 E36 Compact, '99 E36 318iT, '02 E46 318iT, '96 E34 525tdsT, '98 E38 740iL... |
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larzyh ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 25-February-2007 Location: Limerick Status: Offline Points: 633 |
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635CSI - I don't think you need to pity anybody for driving a new 3Series, I would suggest you're wasting your emotions. Larzyh. |
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Larzyh.
Previously or currently, in the family: '77 E21 320, '78 E21 320, '79 E21 320, '87 E28 520i, '88 E30 325iC, '95 E34 525i, '98 E39 528i, '98 Z3 2.5, '98 E38 740iL, '95 E36 Compact, '99 E36 318iT, '02 E46 318iT, '96 E34 525tdsT, '98 E38 740iL... |
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635CSi ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-March-2007 Status: Offline Points: 683 |
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I don't pity anyone for driving a new 3 Series, I pity anyone who acts the to**er driving a new 3 Series. |
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larzyh ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 25-February-2007 Location: Limerick Status: Offline Points: 633 |
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You mean by having chosen 1.6 liter engine? I still don't think they would care about your pity. Larzyh. |
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Larzyh.
Previously or currently, in the family: '77 E21 320, '78 E21 320, '79 E21 320, '87 E28 520i, '88 E30 325iC, '95 E34 525i, '98 E39 528i, '98 Z3 2.5, '98 E38 740iL, '95 E36 Compact, '99 E36 318iT, '02 E46 318iT, '96 E34 525tdsT, '98 E38 740iL... |
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635CSi ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-March-2007 Status: Offline Points: 683 |
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I can see somebody is looking for an argument hear so I'm not going to entertain you. I can think what I like about the E90 316i, and you can't change that. |
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BM Fan ![]() Bavarian-Board Contributor ![]() ![]() Joined: 19-January-2004 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1054 |
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Interesting discussion and I haven't even voted. I am impressed at the support that MB is getting, especially as this is a BMW forum. It is unfortunate that the majority of the public don't see this side of the BMW owners and it is also entirely correct that both brands are purchased by specific demographics as is intended by the marketing departments - so we know they are doing their job well.
I suppose it really depends on what you consider brand image to mean and how you value it. I was in the same position as Coasting when looking and I went through most of the brands and I never really considered image as the buying point, BTW the RX400H was right up there along with 3.0 Touareg. I think that the stereotyping that goes on with respect to both makes is more detrimental to BMW in terms of the average Joe in the street when in reality it is not a representative reflection of the majority of owners. Both have excellent racing pedigrees, both are at the forefront of introducing some of the most advanced technologies in engineering terms. To me the BMW would be younger and more dynamic, but this can so easily become the to**er perception whereas the MB driver would older manager / accountant type hence "The Jerk in the Merc" thats not bothered about anyone else - not sure where I fit in unless 34 makes you an Auld Fella now. So I'm still unsure but I magine the publics perception is very much 50:50, it would really depend on the age split you ask. |
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Martin
In BMW exile at the moment (Shame on me for lurking!!!) Previous Models 2001 E39 520i Auto 1996 E36 M3 Evo Individual 1996 E36 328i Coupe 1997 E36 318i Conv 1992 E36 316i Sln ![]() |
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635CSi ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-March-2007 Status: Offline Points: 683 |
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You've basically hit the nail on the head, Mercedes is for the experienced professional and BMW is for people who demand more out of the driving experience of their car. |
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larzyh ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 25-February-2007 Location: Limerick Status: Offline Points: 633 |
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635CSi - of course you can think what you like but expressing your somewhat prejudicial view on this forum is likely to generate a response; is that not the point of doing it in the first place? You can have your view but equally allow me to challenge it each time you put it forward here. Larzyh. |
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Larzyh.
Previously or currently, in the family: '77 E21 320, '78 E21 320, '79 E21 320, '87 E28 520i, '88 E30 325iC, '95 E34 525i, '98 E39 528i, '98 Z3 2.5, '98 E38 740iL, '95 E36 Compact, '99 E36 318iT, '02 E46 318iT, '96 E34 525tdsT, '98 E38 740iL... |
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thepits ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 09-July-2003 Location: far far away Status: Offline Points: 10000473 |
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everyone is entitled to their own opinion - please remember that.
this is an open forum, and debate is encouraged. flaming is not. |
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Cats know your every thought.
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635CSi ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-March-2007 Status: Offline Points: 683 |
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Fair enough, I agree with you. I just keep on getting the wrong end of the stick. I do tend to be prejudice I admit, but doesn't everyone... |
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635CSi ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-March-2007 Status: Offline Points: 683 |
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That is perfectly fine, I have no problem with that. |
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kdevitt ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 27-February-2003 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 904 |
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Funny you should say that - but the Lexus IS200 is fast becoming the weapon of choice for scrotes here in D15... they're all over the place, and fast catching up on the dodgy E36's. Anyway, long and short of it is that BMW has a crap image amongst other drivers, who cares ... as long as you're not someone who perpetuates it. |
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Howard ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Did I say thaaaat? Joined: 14-October-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 735 |
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To find out about the ages of BMW drivers from the company's own web site, see http://www.bmweducation.co.uk/coFacts/view.asp?docID=71
So whats all this about BMW s being young people's cars? ![]() As far as the 7 series is concerned, I would think they are a bit conservative. I just traded in my 1997 E39 for the price of the LPG gas conversion on its replacement. Which is? A 2001 E39. I'm 65 this year. ![]() I looked around and could find no other car that suited my image better. ![]() Both companies have a good image in their own particlular area. But is not Mercedes owned by Chrysler? Not much brand image there what? Howard |
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635CSi ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-March-2007 Status: Offline Points: 683 |
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The Altezza you mean, yes that car has seemed to have achieved cult status with 'skobes' lately. It's destroying the car's image if you ask me, look what happened to the Toyota Glanza Turbo and the Subaru Impreza. |
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stephenperry ![]() Bavarian-Board Contributor ![]() ![]() Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
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what's the uk name for the toyota glanza turbo?
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stephenperry ![]() Bavarian-Board Contributor ![]() ![]() Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
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not any more, according to this months Evo besides if you're going down that route, then an aston martin or a jaguar is a ford; a bugatti a volkswagen; a roller a bmw; a lamborghini an audi; a ferrari a fiat and a lexus a toyota Edited by stephenperry |
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2007 Ford Mondeo 2.0 TDCI Titanium X Auto 1983 Ford Sierra XR4i 2000 Alpina B10 3.3 #118 1999 BMW 323Ci 1995 BMW 318i SE 1994 Vauxhall Omega 2.0 GLS 1995 Ford Mondeo 1.8 LX 1990 Honda Concerto 1.6 EX 1986 Ford Orion 1.6 GL 1989 Ford Fiesta 1.1 Firefly |
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635CSi ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 01-March-2007 Status: Offline Points: 683 |
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There's none, they were only sold in Japan. They are basically a Toyota Starlet with a Turbo bolted on. Oh and I forgot, they also have a very subtle bodykit. Edited by 635CSi |
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dryle ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() Joined: 31-January-2006 Location: Enfield. Status: Offline Points: 1348 |
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i thought it was the other way around or an amalgamation of the 2 and merc are getting out as it is costing them 2 much. |
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