New Road Bill (speeding)

There are so many issues involved when it comes to equipment accuracy and verification of manufacture specifications, storage, transport, handling, setup perventative maintenance, quality control etc. For them to do daily checks, weekly or monthly checks whatever their standard protocal is, the equipment that they use to do these checks will need to be calibrated and the equipment that does that calibration will need to be calibrated and usually by an approved (in most cases) a state recognised body, so the paper trail is very long and complex and for every part of that trail all i's doted and t must be crossed and that is were a lot of manufactures (the law in this case) can fail.

I think it is a matter of time before a person is done for say 5 to 8 miles over the limit and try to go down this route to get the conviction quashed.

Here here scarface

Last year got done on a bright sunny day on the M6 at Tebay. Done for 80mph by a talivan.

Could have driven past a copper at that speed and nothing of it (as I have done many times)

B******ds the lot of them. Kill the talivan.

I have a theory...

As the average age of the population increases a greater proportion of drivers have nowhere in particular to be and they don't need to be there in any particular hurry. i.e they're retired. Many of their journeys are just to go for nothing more than a gentle dawdle in the country. They don't care for drivers who wish to travel at 60mph on a national speed limit road when it is safe to do so. They would rather we all drove at about 29mph everywhere like them. They are very keen to tell us that the limit is not a target and that they have a right to drive at whatever speed they like. However now they want to remove our right to drive at 60 by getting the limit lowered. Add to this the fact that they have a lot of time on their hands to get involved in lobby/pressure groups who campaign to get limits lowered. After all they don't work so what else are they going to fill their days with.

The real problem starts when this group get together with the full time parents. Another group of people who once their kids have been dropped off at nursery/school only have a bit of house work to sort out. After that is done what do they do. Daytime TV is a fate worse than death so they all decide to get together regularly. Once in a group the conversation gets on to a child that one of the parents, friends, uncles, cousins, sister knew who was knocked down by a car on a local road. They all decide that the evil motorists must be at fault and that a limit reduction is the only way to save our children, 'won't somebody please think of the children!'

Now the s**t really hits the fan when the environmentallists join the fray. Normally a bunch of thin people with a paler than normal complection. Staple diet is lentils, favourite clothes are Cords, a cardigan and jesus sandals. Facial hair is favoured but not compulsory. They generally cycle everywhere and despise the evil motorists who are destroying the planet. Many are unemplyed and on benefits so again have time to spare and those that work are either in local government, or part of a charitable organisation so spend most of their time fundraising whilst also preaching about the evils of the car driver. They would like to see cars banned altogether but realising that this is too ambitious a goal (for the time being at least) they also campaign for limits to be reduced on the grounds of polution.

The final player is the government and when they join in you just know we're f**ked. Desperate to generate more cash in order to pay for our unquestioning support of the US in it's military campaigns, to prop up a failing pensions system (see the first group), to pay for everyone regardless of abillity to go to university, to pay the benefits system filled with those uni graduates who cannot get a job because there aren't any and the prop up an NHS failing under the weight of people who expect to get every drug from Viagra to Vikadin on prescription, not to mention the 95 year old who needs a hip replacement so they can walk to the shop to buy their fags. Realising that driving at 40mph on a big open out of town road is, for anyone with a busy life, about as frustrating as it gets, they decide that it would be a great money spinning idea to drop the limits and install speed cameras. They can make tonnes of cash, appear to be environmentally friendly, on the side of road safety and appeal to the grey vote. Of course none of the money raised will go into public transport because the last thing they want is for us to get out of our cars. Oh no, the tax from fuel is far too important.

In short we're screwed

Who me?

Derek M5 wrote: I think you'll find that if you challenge the calibration and it's found to be ok you also have to cover the cost of the independant verification.

A good point.

You can't beat the system. They will always have more money and resources. In short your screwed

thepits wrote: I also tend to use my Road-Angel and drive at its indicated speed!

I think it may be renamed to 'Road Devil' if you get caught by an unforgiving on duty Ociffer of the Lawr.. 

I was taught that if the conditions permit you should drive at or close to the speed limit. However there appears to be a lot of people saying now that this shouldn't be/isn't the case and that if some stupid, selfish old git wants to drive at 15mph in a 60 zone then that is his right. Of course if I do 65 then I am a blood thirsty mudrering son of a bitch who deserves top be thrown in jail.

You know it makes sense

Hmmm, I like driving fast but as I can't walk far can't afford to lose my licence.

Having watched Central Snooze tonight my question would be how can the enforcers shatter the law and still enforce it?

No amount of skill can make driving at 159mph on a wet busy road safe (despite officers original statement that road was clear footage shows it wasn't). The slipstream alone could have forced less experienced drivers out of lane. Yet we're told "drive to within 1mph of limit or lose you're licence"

Seems very one sided!