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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:17
Originally posted by sharon.... sharon.... wrote:

we want more speed cams.


That's the first post here in support of Livvy's (alleged majority) point of view.

Any more?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:18

Originally posted by sharon.... sharon.... wrote:

we want more speed cams.

Your just a woman

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:22
Originally posted by Nigel Nigel wrote:

Originally posted by sharon.... sharon.... wrote:

we want more speed cams.

Your just a woman

 

 

and your meaning is??

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:24

come on livvy im on your side

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:25

Originally posted by spokey spokey wrote:

Originally posted by sharon.... sharon.... wrote:

we want more speed cams.


That's the first post here in support of Livvy's (alleged majority) point of view.

Any more?

Not doing so well on here, this alleged majority

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:26
name n shame im going to copy this and hand it to the cid
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:27
so you had better watch out you law breakers
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:29
Originally posted by Nigel Nigel wrote:

Originally posted by spokey spokey wrote:

Originally posted by sharon.... sharon.... wrote:

we want more speed cams.


That's the first post here in support of Livvy's (alleged majority) point of view.

Any more?

Not doing so well on here, this alleged majority

 

 

thats because they think its boring on here so they dont bother coming on

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:31
Originally posted by spokey spokey wrote:

Originally posted by livvy livvy wrote:


I doesn't feel like a crime to you because your values are out of sync with societies.


It doesn't feel like a crime to me because my values are out of sync with society's?

I'm chastened to hear that from the judge and jury. I'll just scuttle off and hang my head in shame. It must be wonderful to be as perfect as you.

It may well be that my values are different from those of the sandalistas and lentilists in power, but I am a common man. Don't forget livvy, I am a part of the society you say I am out of touch with. I frequent many web forums, and none of them report that my feelings are out of sync with the overwhelming masses on this issue. I have never in the course of casual conversation with anyone I work with or work for had anyone ever say to me that there should be more speed cameras and that they are important to road safety.

If I am out of touch with society's values, then there are a large number of similarly maladjusted, dysfunctional people out there. You may not be as attuned to the values of society as you think you are.


Spokey as I said you need to look further afield. If you sit in your comfort zone speaking to only like minded people, you will think that is the majority view. You need to have dialogue with all sections of the comunity to get a flavour of what is a majority view. I do have dialogue &  listen to views of all sections & there are a lot of people out there who are very vociferous (on both sides) on the speed issue & there is an even greater number whilst not actively liking cameras, are accepting that that they themselves shouldn't speed. It is this number that from my encounters cover the largest ground. They don't want cameras but they are not going to argue against them, because they fully accept that what they are doing is enforcing a law, a law that they all have broken & been punished for. They realise that it was wrong for them to have been doing that & that they only got what was expected as a result.

You'd probably be surprised at the number of lentilists as you put it & how there numbers compare to petrol heads. As I say though it is the middle ground who hold the majority & realistsic view that they may chance their arm with speeding but accept punishment if caught.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:33

lock it

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lock it

lock it

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:33
Originally posted by spokey spokey wrote:

Originally posted by sharon.... sharon.... wrote:

we want more speed cams.


That's the first post here in support of Livvy's (alleged majority) point of view.

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And you really expect a lot of lentilists to be posting on what is essentially a petrol heads forum do you ?

Like I said get out & speak to wider circles, don't stay in your comfort zone.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:36
Originally posted by B 7 VP B 7 VP wrote:

 www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1869818_1,00.html  Have a very Close look---This is YOUR future--the controlled Big Brother Future------livvy shows how in SIXTY ONE posts in 21 Hours-Yes TWENTY ONE HOURS, the partyline MUST be obeyed--

A very significent day to-day-Remembrance day-- so millions of people gave their life, so that we could choose which govt.manifesto we wish to agree ----WE DID NOT agree to this takeover of our Human Rights by a parasitic party spin machine--which would have been in keeping with 1984 big brother. 



A little while ago you were posting triumphantly how speed camera use was being reviewed in the same paper. You didn't think it would be for something more draconian did you, but I did warn of it. Next you'll be thinking that these ANPR cameras won't also be able to be used as SPECS cameras with a bit of software development.

It is not a party line I suscribe to, it goes much further & wider than that, this is what is not being appreciated, the swell of movement on these issues.
You don't have to agree to it, there is no party that is going to backtrack hugely on this. They may make some small concessions to win a few votes, but the people attacking the government over this go about it all in the wrong way & get excluded. The other side such as "brake" are playing it smarter & therefore get more support where it matters.
I am not against drivers, far from it, I am one after all, I want to drive.
I am not a government supporter.
I am merely letting you see that there is another side to all this outside your field & you are ignoring they are there, just dismissing them as loonies. That is why things are going in the directions they are.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:37
we want more !!!!!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:38
shall we all meet up and have a nice chat
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:41
Come on sharon, we're all congenialists , healthy debate is what is needed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:45

no im just a woman as niggles said!

im still waiting 4 his meaning thou????????

and i think he owes me a pint

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:46
and its all gone quite over there!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 15:50
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13-November-2005 at 16:22
Sorry, I was just watching Top Gear.

Livvy, this isn't the only forum I frequent, some of the forums I frequent are completely unrelated to cars and are just general chat forums. There are one or two people on these forums who say the things that you do, but the overwhelming majority are on "my" side. I also work in a very politically correct corporate where I encounter some alarming people with alarmingly lentilist views and I consult to a very wide and disparate customer base. I deal with customers all over the UK.

In my experience, there is very little support among any of these three groups for cameras and their alleged achievements. I obviously haven't spoken to every single person in every single one of these places, but I have never ever heard someone offer support for your point of view when speaking to them in person.

I can only go by my personal experience.

Maybe if I was in a blue uniform I'd hear something else.
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