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stephenperry
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
Topic: Members Only forum section Posted: 20-November-2004 at 09:42 |
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After discussions with other members, I'd like to canvass opinions on whether there should be a members-only section of the forum to arrange meets etc, only accessible if you're a fully paid up member of the car club, by entry of your club membership card number. The way it currently is, there is no real incentive to join the club, as you get full access to meetings and the forum anyway. Please vote above and feel free to explain your choice |
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Goldryder
Bavarian-Board Contributor Illegitimi Non Carborundum Joined: 02-April-2004 Location: Acomb, North Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 5301 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 09:51 | |
Not sure it would work really. Some club sites have this on them
already and to a degree they do work. However, those people who
for whatever reason are unable to become fully paid up members could
see their exclusion as slightly elitist behaviour of those who have
become full members. The meets etc should be open to all,
regardless of membership or marque ownership. People who have the
marque value the help given from the forums and the meets, exclusivity
of this sort might cause alienation.
That probably wouldn't go down well as everyone knows already that BMW drivers/owners are often made out to be arrogant and self centered, which the majority are not. Just my humble point of view, take or leave it, but I for one think that having a closed area would do more damage than good to the marque and the members as a whole. This is an open site, personally I feel it should stay that way. And I'm not saying it just cos I am not a full member, I am just putting my own opinion forward as you requested. |
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stephenperry
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 09:56 | |
if its a free-for-all then maybe it should be renamed to The BMW Appreciation Society |
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stephenperry
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 10:04 | |
I think that access to the technical sections etc. should remain free. The XR Owners Club forum was my inspiration, access to certain sections was only granted on production of your membership card number. What does my £35 subscription buy me? A few well-written magazines, dealer discount depending on where you reside, and that's about it really. I won't be renewing my subscription next year if this situation does not change, and I am sure that at least some others out there feel as strongly as I do |
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Goldryder
Bavarian-Board Contributor Illegitimi Non Carborundum Joined: 02-April-2004 Location: Acomb, North Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 5301 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 10:04 | |
Whether you own a BMW or not, or you are thinking of buying one, or are just an enthusiast of the marque, the best place to find out all about them is by contact with owners/drivers. Sites and meets provide people with that chance, closed sites just perpetuate the myth that BMW drivers and owners are elitist. Closed sites don't help break down the barriers, they just build bigger ones. |
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Daz
Really Senior Member II Joined: 03-August-2004 Location: Dubai Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 10:09 | |
stephen you have a point here. i asked you at the kildrummy meet if you were a member and you said you were but there was and still is no great benefits brought for members. I believe there is a magazine? but that's about it. a members only area might not be a bad idea but it may actually reduce members on the forum that just have the attitude of a stuff it then... go elsewhere. i dunno tho' i definately think there should be more perks to membership. I voted yes btw. Darren
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Pete330
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-November-2003 Location: Aberdeen Status: Offline Points: 8969 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 10:09 | |
This is an open house as far as i am concerned
It is our job to talk about the club at meets to newbies so they join i would of thought
Start locking the forum and people will just go else where |
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Pete330
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-November-2003 Location: Aberdeen Status: Offline Points: 8969 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 10:15 | |
As a paid member you get 6 mags a year(they are very well written also by all regions) You get a chance of joining a section like coupe etc: You get a chance to vote at your AGM For the committee You get a window sticker You region committee work hard trying to get you deals(like BM motors from Gary) Only available to club members who produce there cards You get 10% off at GFS You get some % off insurance (depends on circumstances)
To name just a few Its well worth the £35 a year
So sign up now |
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B 7 VP
Really Senior Member II Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 12:10 | |
As unacceptable as it may be to Non BMW Club members on this Forum, the Bmw Car Club has grown in numbers, Without or In spite of--the WWW. Compared to the Majority of paid up members--only a small number use this website.Elitist in the True meaning of the word , does NOT come into it. Am I Elitest because I have paid to belong to BMW Emergency/Rac/AA service,s , How would I feel if my Non Elitest BMW owning friend got the same service , but didnt pay a subscription???? Any Non Members go to Gaydon????????????, You enjoyed the work of dozens of Club members, who gave their precious time, for Non members to enjoy, and their subscription fee,s in a fraction of %.They did it, for "Enjoyment" to share with others, their passion for something they beleive in--and perhaps YOU-may wish to be a Club "MEMBER". They didnt try to Brainwash or Con you--it was "Can we help you" so --if you think you are SO pressured to join the Club, Log off--BUT-its a great deal More than a Magazine , its a way of Life. Many members have spent a lifetime getting benifits for the Club, WHY then is it a Right for Free, but slag off anyway eh!!. Yes!!-I go for Stephen and all the like minded members who give more than they take . General Info-- contacts--Did you Know-news-anything else , Members Log in. PS-- anyone got a store card-the one that gives you "BENIFITS", when you spend hundreds of ££££££--The Club gives it for £35.!!!
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therealmccoy
Really Senior Member II Joined: 27-April-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 552 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 12:13 | |
I am no longer a member of the Club for reasons to do with the Sticky Tyres...
I like this forum the way it is, there is a real sense of community. Lots of help on offer for all, from pieces of advice to members drving down to help a fellow member. I managed to buy most of the parts I needed to fix my car up off of this forum too... James |
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kevin
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 29-November-2002 Location: Camberley, Surrey Status: Offline Points: 3189 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 12:58 | |
I don't think closed sections are necessary or desirable. If people choose to join the club because they have found this forum and benefitted from it then that is great.
If they choose to just use the forum and not join the club than that is fine with me. |
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stephenperry
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 13:01 | |
im not asking a lot, just for a little part of the forum, the members only section, as the name implies, should be for errr...members only! |
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stephenperry
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 13:01 | |
either that or remove/rename the members only part
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stephenperry
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 20-April-2004 Location: Elgin Status: Offline Points: 7213 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 13:02 | |
Discuss. there have been comments made in the past on this forum about people turning up in other cars Edited by stephenperry |
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Goldryder
Bavarian-Board Contributor Illegitimi Non Carborundum Joined: 02-April-2004 Location: Acomb, North Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 5301 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 13:08 | |
There was an Audi at Aberdeen but makes no odds...doesn't make any
difference what car anyone owns or turns up to a meet in. If they
are enthusiasts of a marque but can't always afford to own one or
theirs is off the road for some reason, who are you or anyone else to
judge them to be unwelcome?
I know several people who don't own a BMW but who are enthusiastic about them Stephen. Not everyone has the finances to drive about in one, but that shouldn't stop them taking an active part in a club, website or meet. |
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Goldryder
Bavarian-Board Contributor Illegitimi Non Carborundum Joined: 02-April-2004 Location: Acomb, North Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 5301 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 13:13 | |
To be brutally honest Stephen, is this to do with the club membership
fee and what you get out of it, or more to do with the fact you have a
certain amount of sour grapes due to being banned for 24hrs for
swearing the other night?
You made it perfectly clear that you thought it was unjust that you got tugged without any notice. Maybe I am incorrect, in which case I apologise, but the timing does seem a little bit strange. |
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spokey
Bavarian-Board Contributor Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 13:18 | |
Now *that* sounds like a perk that would make the £35 worth spending... |
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claymore_72
Really Senior Member I I Don’t Do Mornings !!! Joined: 26-May-2004 Location: Kindom of Fife, Scotland Status: Offline Points: 362 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 13:18 | |
I must admit that another car appreciation club who get my pennies manages to cover the membership fee with people only having to attend 2 of their organised events in the whole of one year's membership before the subscription has paid for itself, they have a closed forum and a 1 month try and buy scheme before handing over your pennies for new members. The welcome pack included a pen, a tax disc holder and a keyring with other items on sale as well. I too wondered about the club's higher membership fee for a few years as it seemed quite basic for other memberships I've paid and still do. However like everything else in life it's maybe not what material items you get but something else you might get with the section or region you're a member of. Having said that everyone who runs a club/web site/membership do have private sections on their forums for paid-up members, what should be included in that area is a matter that Committee people decide. You can have open events for anyone who wants to go and closed events if members want them and it's not badge snobbery or being elite. But at the end of the day a majority has to decide one way or the other |
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Goldryder
Bavarian-Board Contributor Illegitimi Non Carborundum Joined: 02-April-2004 Location: Acomb, North Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 5301 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 13:22 | |
erm....Spokey.....words escape me...but perhaps I should have said 'stopped from posting without notice for 24 hours'.... men.....one tracked minds.... |
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Pete330
Really Senior Member II Joined: 26-November-2003 Location: Aberdeen Status: Offline Points: 8969 |
Posted: 20-November-2004 at 13:33 | |
That will be coupeking then LOL At least he does have a bmw And still made the effort to come even tho his car is dead at the mo Not that this as got anything to do with the topic |
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