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Cambell ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() Joined: 07-January-2007 Status: Offline Points: 3830 |
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Looks like BMW are being run by the tree hugging marketing department instead of people passionate for the brand.
Look at this crap, especially the last paragraph.
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nero ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Just call me Tripod Joined: 15-October-2002 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 3131 |
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Bear in mind that next season's F1 rule changes mean that engines will be downsized to 1.6 litre, albeit a V6 turbo
So if engines are more efficient, but provide the same power - is it a problem?
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Cambell ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() Joined: 07-January-2007 Status: Offline Points: 3830 |
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Yes, its a huge problem.
I dont drive an F1 car and I couldn't give a crap about the environment. I bought an M car because I want the power and the knowledge that I have a monster, not a tuned up 116i.
I bought BMW because I want build quality and a prestige brand, if this trend continues, there's no point in BMW M, we should all just buy Kia and have it tuned. ![]() |
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jimbo34 ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 08-April-2013 Location: edinburgh Status: Offline Points: 66 |
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Campbell, I agree with you on this. I believe a car's engine plays such a huge % in a car's overall character and personality, the likes of lambo v12s etc. Bmw M cars engines absolutely fall into this category. They have won many awards for this. It's such a shame now that we are now heading down a road where manufacturers are being pushed to develop smaller engines just to show political correctness and are not really listening to us car enthusiasts.
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Andrew Rolland ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Go away rain Joined: 19-August-2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 6579 |
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Quite agree.
I'm old skool but not an old fart.
I want cubes in my engines not turbos.
I want big V8s, V10s V12 etc. I don't want some lumpy 2.0 four pot with three turbos or whatever to give the performance of my 4.4 V8.
Turbo charging within an inch of the engines life will not give a smooth revving engine. You need 6, 8 or more cylinders to give the smooth running which is what I want in an engine. An engine running at higher pressures due to charging or tunning etc can only be more unreliable. A relatively unstressed normally aspirated 6pot or V8 engines will be much more reliable.
Mibbie a supercharged V8 purely for the sound of it.
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A 3 cylinder engine will also sound dreadfull.
Think how awful a 3 cylinder motorbike engine sounds. A 4 pot DIEsel engine almost sounds better.
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IMHO, the E30 M3 doesn't have enough cylinders. ![]() End of discussion!
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Nah, I'm interested to hear what others think about lumpy 3 pot engines with hairdryers!
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Yip agree also, just think how awful a 1.0 Corsa 3cylinder with a crappy chaved up exhaust sounds!? Is that what an M car is going to sound like in the future!? If so I'm off to Audi, they still make a nice V8! :))
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wash your mouth out young man! Anyway, they'll pipe a nice v8 sound through the speakers so that it sounds awesome inside the cabin ![]() |
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Agreed, any more of that from you VP and you're ![]() ![]() Edited by thepits - 15-May-2013 at 19:28 |
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Lol. I thought that would get you lot going!! But still if they're going to sound as bad as a chavved up corsa....no ta.
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No don't get an Audi, get a Volkswagen, you can get a Passat with a W12! Audi running gear but not driven by c
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i want to cry..... you here corsa B's an C's all over the place and i "working one" still sounds like the tapets are dancing on the bonnet! and that's at tick over!
Pardon me whilst i vomit on my own shoes
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Cambell ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() Joined: 07-January-2007 Status: Offline Points: 3830 |
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Is this the correct point to introduce this ?
Nuff said !
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Just means I'll have one more cylinder over an M!!!
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