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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 07:55 |
dirtybeemer wrote:
.......but you do choose to have smoke inflicted on you by going in a smokey pub may not like it but its the truth |
A pub, or public house, to give it it's full name, is a public place. I should have the right to go into a public place and not breathe in smoke. If a pub was a place run for smokers and me as a non smoker decided I wanted to come then you would have a point.
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dirtybeemer
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 08:46 |
To true but the point that i was getting at is that you and you alone have the choice to enter or not enter that public place knowing full well of the danger that lies ahead and you make that choice to do it, therefore subjecting yourself to passive smoking, just like i smoke but dont go out drinking my choice,
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pma1ums
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 08:51 |
dirtybeemer wrote:
To true but the point that i was getting at is that you and you alone have the choice to enter or not enter that public place knowing full well of the danger that lies ahead and you make that choice to do it, therefore subjecting yourself to passive smoking, just like i smoke but dont go out drinking my choice,
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sorry peter
but i have to agree with dirty on that one
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its a dogs world out there
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 09:08 |
pma1ums wrote:
dirtybeemer wrote:
To true but the point that i was getting at is that you and you alone have the choice to enter or not enter that public place knowing full well of the danger that lies ahead and you make that choice to do it, therefore subjecting yourself to passive smoking, just like i smoke but dont go out drinking my choice,
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sorry peter
but i have to agree with dirty on that one
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Eh?!
So by that logic then if I start going to any enclosed public place and at some point further down the line smokers start going there, then if I don't want to breathe in their smoke then I should stop going!
That's kind of a strange view.
Remove smoking and replace it with something else to see how silly that sounds.
I like to go to pubs. However a lot of other people go there who like to drink benzene. This was fine until one day someone discovered that benzene gives you cancer. Not only does it give the people drinking it cancer, but also those serving it and those who also frequent the pub, as it is volitile, like petrol and can be inhaled. However the benzene drinkers say no we have a right to drink it so if you don't want be exposed you should stop comming here. Oh and the people who work here, well that's just tough.
Madness!
Smokers do not and should not think they have more right to be in a pub than anyone else. I like a drink as much as the next man, so why shouldn't I not be able to go to my local and not risk getting cancer because some people chooise to endanger their own lives and everyone elses.
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dirtybeemer
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 09:51 |
Peter whatever i give up
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kbannon
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 11:22 |
If you think somkers rights are being imfringed because others don't want to share the same air then google this:- NAMBLA
Just because you percieve something to be your right don't make it so!
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 14:00 |
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thepits
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 16:41 |
kbannon wrote:
If you think smokers rights are being infringed because others don't want to share the same air then google this:- NAMBLA |
KB, sometimes you worry me with your suggestions!
( http://216.220.97.17/ )
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Rhys
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 16:45 |
..er Killian, how on earth did you happen accross that site - just what were you looking for matey?
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thepits
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 16:57 |
Rhys wrote:
..er Killian, how on earth did you happen accross that site - just what were you looking for matey? |
..errr, yes, worrying isn't it
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Nigel
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 17:45 |
The non smoking girlies have won, and us smokers are stuck with it.
I just hope the next ban hits some of the non smokers on here, what next ?
cars with more than 3 cylinders ?, drinking ? driving limited to a thousand miles a year ? cameras recording your every movement?, ( oops sorry, they're already doing that one)
Lets hope horsey doesn't smoke, otherwise the " I know betters" have got him twice.
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Nigel
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thepits
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 17:53 |
Nigel wrote:
... cameras recording your every movement?, ( oops sorry, they're already doing that one) |
Do you mean they have cameras in our TOILETS now!
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Nigel
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 18:04 |
Anti terrorism mate, didn't anyone tell you ?
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kbannon
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Posted: 20-February-2006 at 18:57 |
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pma1ums
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Posted: 21-February-2006 at 06:49 |
Nigel wrote:
The non smoking girlies have won, and us smokers are stuck with it.
I just hope the next ban hits some of the non smokers on here, what next ?
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make this man the next prime minister
i have no time for all you non smokers out there saying smoking is bad because it realy is your own choice to go to a pub thats filled with smoke or not
freedom for non smokers and freedom for smokers;that is the whole point you can CHOOSE were when and if you do or dont or go to places that accept the fact you as an independent person can do
its wrong that somebody can make such a stupid bill up in parliment and get away with it
and to all you goody goody two shoes who dont smoke there is plenty of non smoking bars and clubs out there allready so you did have the CHOICE
oh and yes i used to smoke but dont now
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pma1ums
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Posted: 21-February-2006 at 06:56 |
Peter Fenwick wrote:
Remove smoking and replace it with something else to see how silly that sounds.
Madness!
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replace with a bunch of smokers gaging for a cigy with booze inside of them ====== trouble i would think starving some yob of his fix a bit like throwing a flame in to petrol
thats madness
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its a dogs world out there
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dirtybeemer
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Posted: 21-February-2006 at 09:42 |
Pma1ums you are my HERO
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 21-February-2006 at 09:51 |
Nigel wrote:
The non smoking girlies have won, and us smokers are stuck with it.
I just hope the next ban hits some of the non smokers on here, what next ?
cars with more than 3 cylinders ?, drinking ? driving limited to a thousand miles a year ? cameras recording your every movement?, ( oops sorry, they're already doing that one)
Lets hope horsey doesn't smoke, otherwise the " I know betters" have got him twice.
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Girlies?! It's that kind of stupid insult that I thought was beneath you Nigel.
I was wrong
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 21-February-2006 at 09:56 |
pma1ums wrote:
Peter Fenwick wrote:
Remove smoking and replace it with something else to see how silly that sounds.
Madness!
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replace with a bunch of smokers gaging for a cigy with booze inside of them ====== trouble i would think starving some yob of his fix a bit like throwing a flame in to petrol
thats madness
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Because of course when they banned it in Ireland the it became a really violent place............oh hang on, no it didn't.
Maybe the ban will help a few more people quit. After all, it costs a fortune, it's bad for your health and the health of everyone around you and you only do it because your addicted.
I used to smoke 20 a day and I would have loved it if pubs had been smoke free, it would have made quitting a lot easier.
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dirtybeemer
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Posted: 21-February-2006 at 11:09 |
Peter wrote
I used to smoke 20 a day and I would have loved it if pubs had been smoke free, it would have made quitting a lot easier.
At last i bloody knew it you ex smokers are always the worst, ive been at my local club for the past two days and ive been asking non smokers if someone smoking bothers them, every one who has never ever touched a fag said it didnt bother them then the ones that moaned about smoking was the ones who used to smoke and that is a FACT
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