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John W
Really Senior Member II Joined: 01-November-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 630 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 11:42 | |
2 points Dave:
1) Nick's days at Croft are great. This year will be my 6th one on the bounce. He doesn't mind sticky tyres himself, but he has to do as the Club says. 2) We have been here before.....debating the sticky tyre issue, but we got little feedback from the club last time. Richard Baxter did join in which was good, but nobody else to do with the Club came here to debate it. Very sad. |
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M3Moose
Senior Member I Joined: 12-January-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 11:57 | |
Exactly my point - lots of people asking why no sticky tyres etc, but very little reply from the 'management'. Surely members deserve the respect of a decent reply.
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m3kuk
Really Senior Member I Joined: 19-November-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 267 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 12:29 | |
Just a few words,I'm probably the type of person you're trying to attract to these days.I've never been to a BDD before but was going to take the plunge this year.
A few things put me off; 1: Cost,Silverstone being very dear in particular. 2: Extra drivers,passenger costs.I would have brought my brother to give him a go,but he has to pay as much again to drive. 3: Overtaking on left only,no overtaking in corners? If being passed lift off etc.Sounds like a economy run! Let's leave the 'better driving days' for the old duffers and arrange 'track days' on a RACETRACK for those who want to use their cars as God intended and push the performance to the limit.You can't on the road,that's why you use a track. |
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DAWIEM3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 17-February-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 489 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 12:32 | |
Well, M3Moose, If there is a strong enough element on this how many have attended the AGM. Somebody has to nominate and elect the club committee and we are all responsible as paid up members. If we are not happy about certain policies then vote in somebody new. We do it, with the government. Strength is in numbers, when voting, and things can be changed. Maybe its time for a change, and the members to flex some muscle / influence. Does anybody know the attendance figures of the last few AGM`s. |
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therealmccoy
Really Senior Member II Joined: 27-April-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 552 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 12:34 | |
No offence mate, but with that type of outlook, you're exactly the type of person the club DON'T WANT! |
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DAWIEM3
Really Senior Member I Joined: 17-February-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 489 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 12:35 | |
James, Agreed. |
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jon90
Really Senior Member II Joined: 11-January-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 653 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 12:40 | |
"Overtaking on left only,no overtaking in corners?
If being passed lift off etc.Sounds like a economy run!" You are wrong,you are not the type they are looking for,and neither would any other trackday organiser. Without those particular rules it would be a race. Jon |
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jon90
Really Senior Member II Joined: 11-January-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 653 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 12:41 | |
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kevin
Bavarian-Board Contributor Joined: 29-November-2002 Location: Camberley, Surrey Status: Offline Points: 3189 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 12:51 | |
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Kevin
'04 E46 330Ci Convertible '08 E61 535d Touring (TorqueMeister Towbarge) ’95 E34 M5 ’89 E30 M3 (Cecotto) |
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Robbie Bradford
Really Senior Member II Joined: 16-July-2004 Location: Co. Laois, Ireland. Status: Offline Points: 2124 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 12:55 | |
1. Does one have to be present to cast a vote and is this done at the AGM? not very convenient for the 300 or so Irish members. 2. Do Irish members have a vote? 3. An online vote is surely a good idea for all members, they then can have no excuse about not being able to influence the potential outcome. |
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jon90
Really Senior Member II Joined: 11-January-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 653 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 13:03 | |
John W,
What tyres are you using at Croft this year then? Jon |
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M3Moose
Senior Member I Joined: 12-January-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 13:13 | |
Dawie M3
You are indeed correct regarding attending the AGM etc, however, I presume that the Sticky Tyred Trackday attendees are in a minority compared to the club overall and so even if we were all to turn up I doubt it would make much difference. I am a committee member in a much smaller club (300), we do only survive by listening to our members. Perhaps the BMWCC is now just too big, the BDD is just a small fish in the ocean that is the running of such a large club. It seems that perhaps the powers that be are a little out of touch in the organisation of such events. The fact still remains however, that the last time this subject came up we had very little correspondence from those in charge, they took no notice of what those with experience and those who it concerned had to say and now it looks like the BDD might go belly up. Very sad. |
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Nick
Bavarian-Board Contributor BMWCC Area Organiser Yorks & Humber Joined: 21-October-2002 Location: God’s own county... Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 1319 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 14:04 | |
Oh no I don't.. The sticky tyres are fine.. They always have been at Croft. I buy the insurance provided by the circuit to cover us on that point. Passengers.. You just pay one fee which this year is £20.. you can bring along as many mates as you like. Specatators.. Free of charge, always have been.. the more the merrier. And the best bit.. Croft is only £140.. capped entry open pit lane has never been as cheap as this. Now to defend Silverstone.. It is NOT overpriced.. it may be a lot of things that you do not agree with but no one is ripping you off.. Silverstone circuit want to charge us £25 grand.. do the maths first before you grumble about the price we need to charge... Croft charge me £6 grand.. some difference! Thats why I can make it work with so few entries. Please do not slag off the Club.. I know some of you do not want to come back into the fold and with that in mind I am prepared to let 'lapsed' members come to Croft'05 without paying the club membership fee.. just this once mind.. you can come as my guests, have a great day on the circuit for £140, and see for yourself the Club in action at the finest TrackDay of the summer. Book now before I change my mind! Nick Nicks inbox |
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M3Moose
Senior Member I Joined: 12-January-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 108 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 14:19 | |
Nick, I have read nothing but excellent reports about your Croft Trackdays and I would love to attend, unfortunately my car is sleeping at the 'Ring so maybe another time.
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Nick
Bavarian-Board Contributor BMWCC Area Organiser Yorks & Humber Joined: 21-October-2002 Location: God’s own county... Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 1319 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 14:46 | |
Dismal.. hardly anyone bar the committee there this year, just me and a few others. We are a members club, each and every one of us can influence the way things are done. It's just that no-one bothers.. they just complain about the ones that do. |
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John W
Really Senior Member II Joined: 01-November-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 630 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 15:55 | |
Nick....re: sticky tyres, sorry mate, I am pleased that they are allowed at Croft, see you there.
jon90....as stated in my earlier post in this thread I will be using Dunlop Supersport Race tyres. As I stated earlier, they fit somewhere between a road tyre and something like a Michelin Cup. Neither fish nor foul and this shows up the Club's rule for being the ass it is. |
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m3kuk
Really Senior Member I Joined: 19-November-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 267 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 18:16 | |
Maybe I should go on a 'Max Power' day with all the rice burner boyz and their 'hoodies'! BTW I am 35yo,clean licence and 9yrs NCD.I just want to see what the car will do on a track.I also have contributed several articles to the Club magazine and Staight Six in my 3 years of membership.All those E30's will be in my way anyhow!
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jon90
Really Senior Member II Joined: 11-January-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 653 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 19:35 | |
JW I just wondered after you said Nick had to toe the club line,but I see he`s straighted that out
Nick,What a generous offer,being a lapsed member myself. It always seems that when your Croft day comes around,my car is off the road.If by some fluke they manage to finish it I will be in touch,keep up the good work. M3KUK, Wasn`t meant as a personal dig,just pointing out your misunderstanding of what a trackday is,what you want is a testday.Fully marshalled anything goes,but as it seems you haven`t done any trackdays before I would steer clear of these or you could be taking your car home in a bag. Go and do a trackday,it`s fun,you will be able to push your car to its limit and all the slower drivers will pull over and let you pass,but bear in mind it works both ways and I will expect the same from you when I loom large in your mirrors with my lowley E30 Jon Edited by jon90 |
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John W
Really Senior Member II Joined: 01-November-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 630 |
Posted: 03-June-2005 at 21:42 | |
Err........no they won't. Care to try? |
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UweM3
Moderator Group Joined: 11-February-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 5445 |
Posted: 04-June-2005 at 04:14 | |
Oh no! Not that again! An appeal to all E30 owners. DO NOT respond to this. What's the point? He will learn it the hard way anyway.... |
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