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B 7 VP ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
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AS if You needed to be told A REAL Non Slime investigation, has shown what the truth is.After All the claims of self financing London transport, the £200 Million that charges would bring in--only £70M comes in, of that--£38M is fines.ALL public transport is losing momey like theres No tomorrow, Fares have been raised again, AND--£500 Million Taxpayers money Per Year is required to just keep it going.Such a success that 37% of businesses have sacked staff--and 84% say takings are down-John Lewis trade is down by 10%.A large nunber of all types of company are going to move out. YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! truly a great success-----to show that council near You and You, what will happen in the near future, Edinburgh has more common sense--its just Voted by 74% Against CON charges Despite a drum beating visit from Red Ken to say how much success they have acheived in London.
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spokey ![]() Bavarian-Board Contributor ![]() ![]() Offensive and obnoxious tub of lard Joined: 02-March-2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1948 |
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You know, I have to say, for a keen driver, I'm not actually against public transport. I'd far rather ride in a clean, cheap, punctual, convenient and reliable train / metro to get to work than sit for hours in a traffic jam, unable to read a paper or whatever.
Unfortunately, I live in the UK. None of those criteria are met. |
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Nostrils ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 27-October-2002 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 792 |
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What I dont like about the Con. Charge is that the company that run it, I think their name is Capita, received a boost of £15Million last year from Red Ken because they themselves were getting into financial trouble because they were not collecting enough of the revenue, of which their fees were based!
They'd better not get another boost this year, just to keep their shareholders sweet. |
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Praktisk ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() "Wanna buy some pegs Dave?" Joined: 06-June-2004 Location: Royston Vasey - Are U Local? Status: Offline Points: 845 |
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IMO any business that controls anything to do with Public service should not be accountable to shareholders. Its just a kick in the groin of the person paying the tax for whatever the service maybe, knowing that instead of being re-invested in the service or the money going to other good uses such as improving the environment, instead its just going into the back pocket of some fat cat director or other major shareholder. Re-nationalise everything - Privatisation sucks!
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Doive ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
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Well I live in Edinburgh, and I wouldn't dream of driving in the city centre. The council are changing the traffic flow of the whole city centre to make it much much more difficult for car drivers to get around - a petty tactic in an attempt to make the congestion charge look like a good idea. To be fair cars in the city centre are a menace, why not have a ring of peripheral park and ride for free schemes to encourage drivers to leave their cars and get on the good and regular buses. Public transport up here is second to none, and for that very reason I would never take my car in. Besides, parking in the centre is horrendous. However, the council also wants to implement an outer ring of charging meaning that for me to drive to work every day would cost an extra two quid, and everyone who wanted to come in off the bypass would also need to pay this two quid. Personally I would just move out of the city - the roads are terrible and the council traffic wardens are far too eager to give tickets, they can be often seen hovering around cars waiting for the time to run out. That really annoys me. I agree that cars in the city centre aren't a good thing, but charging to enter the city limits is just ridiculous. 74% of the population were right to say no. |
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pma1ums ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 12-October-2004 Location: central uk Status: Offline Points: 1148 |
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to the original point of this thread ..mr B 7 VP take a bow young man
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its a dogs world out there
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Daz ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 03-August-2004 Location: Dubai Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
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This country is far too centralised in London anyway. So if companies move out then good. We are not alone though as Paris and Amsterdam etc all experience the same problem. The capital is bursting with jobs (relatively) meanwhile the rest of the country is left to rot!! Good work Blair!! This issue will not go away in my lifetime unfortunately. |
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Daz ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 03-August-2004 Location: Dubai Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
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please note the good work blair was sarcasm - phew!!
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pma1ums ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 12-October-2004 Location: central uk Status: Offline Points: 1148 |
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all the big accountants have shipped to leeds ..KPMG earnest and young ..etc etc .they got there head screwed on faily ealrly on in the game ..why have london rates etc .when you can nearly halve it up north ..and if anybody needs to get to head office in london .stick them on the train and hey presto .in kings cross in 1hr 30 mins . hence not stuck in london traffic and actualy doing work for 1 hr 30 mins on train ....clever peeps me thinks in some pubs round here theres more londerners than locals ... |
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Daz ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 03-August-2004 Location: Dubai Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
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Yeh dell and HP are in Ireland - clever tax stuff by their govmn't. Yeh Tony take a hint. You are supposed entice companies in not scare them away!!!
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B 7 VP ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
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1.Spokey-- I AM in favour of a system that is Clean-Reasonable cost-without slime offensive Xx"2)%62 passengers-on time-and runs at "This World times" if the last show finishes at 23-30, NO good if the last Bus/train goes at 21-57 --- Is It ?? If I dont want to drive into Munich from the Airport-- I can go by U-bahn-everything one wants in UK less the Billions of ££££££ WE spend, and only Dream. 2.Nostrils. Youre paying Attention mate, you get a free ticket to Ride-- or was that Ryde IOW--the true sum of TAXPAYERS Wages taken to bribe was £31 MILLION £££££££££££££££££,s BUT- newspapers say the sum was MANY times greater.You have to be in the inner RED slime Sh-t to have the true cost. 3.Praktisk.The fact that ££££££££££££ are on the line for running a Public service means that WE the Public, dont get a PUBLIC service.agree with you.NOW !!!!!!!! heres a thought for EVERYONE--what would happen--If the Slime Government sold its shares to the Public--guess what would happen????????? 4.Doive--Great common sense-- Suggest to the council that the Outer Charge is ok--BUT-you and 100,000 others will deduct £2 x 6 x 52 weeks per year from the Council TAX.So you save £624 per house. 5.Pma1ums, AS a 90 year old you made Me day mate, think YOU will be me Spin chief. Well me cabinet is looking the Biz--DONT cal ME--Cos I will call u.
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Doive ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 09-February-2005 Location: Clinging to a turbine, Hexham Status: Offline Points: 1212 |
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Can I be transport minister? Please?
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pma1ums ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 12-October-2004 Location: central uk Status: Offline Points: 1148 |
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5.Pma1ums, AS a 90 year old you made Me day mate, think YOU will be me Spin chief
ask some of my past customers ..how they though they only wanted a price ..rather than the job been installed that week .. you know it makes sense rodney ....
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Horsetan ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Say Neigh to Gatsos Joined: 11-April-2003 Location: Please let it be Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6381 |
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Nor are they ever likely to be met. And certainly not by 2012. This is WCUK, home of cheap "kwalitee" for exorbitant prices, and origin of the cock-up.
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What gets me is this: when the IOC swanned round Central London earlier in the week, why couldn't Crowbar and his union cronies organise a total walkout to coincide with the IOC visit?
In the months when there was still debate about whether London should even have a Mayor (these were the days before Jeffrey Archer was put away), I was one of a select band chosen to swan up the Thames with the Mayoral candidates, together with a TV crew from BBC News SouthEast. I said then (and my comments were edited out of the programme) that London did NOT need a Mayor and the attendant extra levels of bureaucracy which we in London would all end up paying for. I also feared that if Ken in particular were to become Mayor, it would not be long before he would become power-crazed. The taste of life at the top of the old GLC clearly lingered on. All that I and others forecast about the folly of a Mayor and a "London Assembly" (for which, read "Ken's Friends") has now come to pass. And guess what? We're paying for it! Edited by Horsetan |
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B 7 VP ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
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Maybe the IOC know by advice pre visit, about Bob Crow and the Crownies--But --as we know--IOC are about as PURE as the Swiss Accounts.Not Such a good move from Bliar was it???--support RED Ken to spin the infiltrating brainwash--that was only allowed for in a Bliar DNA. Even WE wouldnt fall for that Wheel clamp-Would WE???? Edited by B 7 VP |
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Nigel ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 09-November-2002 Status: Offline Points: 6941 |
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Can I be in charge of a special new dept. that has cyclists shot ?
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Rhys ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Coffee addict... Joined: 02-February-2003 Location: from the Latin locÄtiÅ Status: Offline Points: 10053 |
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much more fun to flick garden canes through their front wheels. ![]() Take it you don't like cyclists Nigel? Can't blame you mate, they are a menace and most are colourblind as well.. |
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B 7 VP ![]() Really Senior Member II ![]() ![]() Joined: 04-November-2003 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1115 |
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Nigel, hate to tell you this, BUT-- YOU are in the Threatening Zone Area,suspended short list--for suggestive physical retaliation against our fellow/ess road sharers.Even in jest-its not to be encouraged. PS-- Tim on the Znet-has just passed his IAM test.I have voluntered him for El presidente, due to they aint got one--since Duke was zapped !!!!!!!!OR !! We All could vote Nige in to do the Biz !!!!!!!!!!! Edited by B 7 VP |
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