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Andrew Rolland
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Posted: 15-February-2005 at 08:08 | ||||
BMW E36 Driver Reputations. Hmmmm Well if you ask me they do have the worst driving reputation for... DRIVING WITH THEIR FRONT FOGS ON!!! Turn them off! I passed two E36s doing just that this morning. Andrew
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 15-February-2005 at 08:17 | ||||
Coasting, Fair enough.
Now, this I do disagree with. Some cheap BMs are bought by people like this but all the people I know who own them are honest hard working individuals. The car park at my place of work has a lot of E36s and E34s G to R reg in various conditions.
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Daz
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Posted: 15-February-2005 at 08:26 | ||||
he, he class... oh and to coasting - undesirables: - brilliant, I think I know what you mean. I hope I'm not one! |
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pma1ums
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Posted: 15-February-2005 at 08:42 | ||||
just a point on council estates here part of my job is security so hence i drive and measure a lot of jobs on very bad parts of estates ...the only time i ever get pulled by lilly law .is when iam on estates driving my bmw. there first question is ALLWAY what are you doing on here...i show them work folder ..then they allways let me go .without giving producers etc etc .what does that tell you about bmw and estates?? |
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Coasting
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Posted: 15-February-2005 at 09:04 | ||||
Just a few points to add to the new "twist" in the thread. Older BM's being bought "by and large" by dodgy folk. I know the point that was trying to be made here but perhaps it was a little too widespread in its circle of capture! I do actually know lots of people who drive older E36's because they bought an older quality car instead of a newer pile of junk (distinction to be made there, because many do the latter). I think the problem is that so many "dodgy" folk seem to aspire to the older BMW as a way of expressing their worth or place in society - and I think it is those that Doive was referring to. I suspect we all know the ones he means and I give him the benefit of the doubt about what he meant by it. I'd like to bet that categorised the driver of the BMW 318iS this morning actually! Onto council estates. It is true that many are blighted with the least favourable members of society. But, there are good estates and there are bad estates. I suspect the one referred to above is a notoriously bad one and the police are likely to patrol it more frequently. But, life can throw some strange people into the mix and I can recall a new neighbour moving in to the road I used to live on. It was a private road, mainly occupied by retired people. Very quiet indeed. These weren't cheap houses nor were they top of the market. But, in moves a family I can best describe as the neighbours from hell. Parties until 3am, Chav cars racing up and down the street to this time, sounding their horns at the girls that the family invited around to the house for the parties. Some very uncouth language at all hour of day or night, and regardless of young children being present. To cut a long story short (having listened to appeals above, all be in jest I know!) after police involvement from ourselves and other neighbours we ended up moving out 8 months later. Sold up. Gone. Now....new location. What many might perceive as top-end-ish in a (to use estate agent terms) "desired" location. 99% fantastic.....but.....we now have a bloke who drives his Range Rover Vogue SE like a man possessed. He'll drive out of the cul-de-sac like Michael Schumacher in pursuit of a personality. He's also extremely ignorant to his neigbours - but no more so than our old neighbours from hell or those that blight the lives of many good people on council estates. My point...it's a matter of ratio's. Council estate = higher ratio of "undesireables", more things to have cause for concern about. Private housing = less likelihood, but still those that give you cause for angst. Top end housing = less likelihood again, but still not free of the odd idiot or ignoramus. Royalty residences = all of the above put together!
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 15-February-2005 at 09:24 | ||||
I suspect the reason for getting pulled up on a council estate in a BMW is that the Police don't see many there and those that are might be being driven by joy riders. Coasting, not a fan of Micheal Schumacher?
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Coasting
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Posted: 15-February-2005 at 10:35 | ||||
Me? How could you possibly think that? I have every respect for his ability as probably the second greatest F1 driver of all time after Mr Senna. The fact that he is a seemingly ignorant, arrogant, cheating, egotistical, do-no-wrong, what who me type of person.....well that doesn't bother me at all of course.. |
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Praktisk
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Posted: 15-February-2005 at 10:39 | ||||
He's German .. what do you expect?
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spokey
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Posted: 15-February-2005 at 12:02 | ||||
As the owner of two early 80's sheds, I heartily agree! I'm twice as dodgy as the next bloke! In fact, since my Z1 is a late 80's car, it makes me three times as dodgy as the next bloke! |
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spokey
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Posted: 15-February-2005 at 12:05 | ||||
I watched something on the telly where they said that a personality like that was a pre-requisite for being a competitive F1 driver. We will never know whether Schumacher was better than Senna, but historically, the bald statistics show Schuey as the top of the pops! |
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MIKE 318IS
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Posted: 15-February-2005 at 12:48 | ||||
well was not me i drive a k reg |
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Praktisk
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Posted: 15-February-2005 at 12:57 | ||||
Spokey . just coz there old doesnt make them sheds, infact the Z in yer sig. looks far from "shedish" ... sorry mate, you havent attained "undesirable / dodgy" status just yet .. please try again next year.Thank you for your efforts all the same.
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spokey
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Posted: 15-February-2005 at 14:49 | ||||
Ah! But there is a very good reason why neither the 6er nor the Baur are in my sig... Edited by spokey |
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 16-February-2005 at 04:43 | ||||
I saw something similar. This is probably the reason why that lovely chap David Coulthard will never be world champion. What ever you think about him he is by far the best driver out there at the moment and IMO the best driver ever.
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Andyboy
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Posted: 16-February-2005 at 09:11 | ||||
Sadly, BMW as a marque is not particularly up
market on any level and hasn't been for a long time - probably since the early to middle eighties. To me, modern BMW's are all a bit too 'lifestyle' and a tool for showing your wealth as opposed to an informed choice. There are so many better cars out there than some nasty 316i. In the seventies, in a world before Yes Car Credit, you had to be genuinely well off to own a BMW - none of this credit lark, it was dollars up front and because thet were so outrageously expensive you had to be mad on cars and not just trying to project an image. How else could you justify a 2002Tii that cost more than a 4.2 XJ6? Now any scum with CCJ's can buy anything. Also, BMW is not exclusive. This is why the millions of old ones are worth next to nothing - oversupply and a slightly iffy image. An old Mercedes will always find a buyer, old BMW's just get crushed. Sadly, BMW is saddled with a dodgy reputation of cars bought by the 'Beckham Classes', poor boy done good, innit? Yes, I'll stand up and say that the E36 is rapidly becoming a chav wagon, just like the E30 did before. As soon as a model ends up in the "Under £1000 Bargains' section of the Auto Trader, full chav status is assured along with chrome arches, Northern Irish number plates, tinted windows and all the other council class addenda. Snob? Me? Well actually, yes. New Money shouts, Old Money whispers. |
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Coasting
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Posted: 16-February-2005 at 09:29 | ||||
Wow - don't hold back on new BMW buyers will you? Say what you mean why don't you? That said, you won't object if I reply in a similarly worded way!
That's nothing but a very narrow minded perspective. Categorises everyone as a braggart and it's just downright wrong.
Very possibly, but the outgoing model has reigned supreme in its class for 7 years. Everyone else must have missed what you have seen!
And that, frankly, is just ludicrous. It sounds to me like you presume anyone that has something you don't must have achieved it through credit? (Incidentally, I have nothing against credit at all for those that read this). Why do you think this? I'd point to what seems to be a very narrowed minded viewpoint yet again. Let me ask you this - when you bought your house....did you have a mortgage. It is no different at all, it is a credit agreement so stand in line with those you have just berated. As for the comment about "any scum with CCJ's" - well it just isn't worthy of proper reply.
You should get out more! Wow, such scripted anger towards a new BMW or their owners by the sounds of it! Check your blood pressure!
I agree. You're 100% guilty of inverted snobbery in that post and of demonstrating a viewpoint that couldn't be more narrow minded than on a blinkered horse in a tunnel... |
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 16-February-2005 at 09:32 | ||||
The reason for over supply is that BMWs are popular cars and there is a demand for them. Also they are trying to sell more and more in the hopes that the company can be big enough to fight off any future takeover bid The E36 is now cheap enough so that anyone can own one but then that doesn't bother me. There aren't many marques that can't be found in the under £1000 section of autotrader these days. This in part is due to the increasing complexity of cars making them very expensive to repair if they go wrong, hence big expensive cars devalue quite quickly once they get old. Jags, Mercs, Audis, Porsches, Saabs, Volvos etc can all be picked up for peanuts. I don't think oversupply is what devalues them, after all old Lamborginis aren't worth much compared to how much they cost new, neither are cars like the Ford RS200. It's got more to do with desirabillity. In this country most people want old british classic cars. Nostalgia and possibly ease of getting spare parts. That's the only reason I can think of why people still by MGs. In germany i'm sure there is more demand for old geman classics. The only car make which seems to hold universal appeal the world over is Ferrari.
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 16-February-2005 at 09:34 | ||||
Chris, well said!!
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Doive
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Posted: 16-February-2005 at 10:18 | ||||
Here now, less of the slating on Northern Irish number plates! It just so happens that those in 'the know' head across to Belfast to the auctions when looking for a cheap car, as cars in NI tend to be 25-30% cheaper than the equivalent model and condition on the mainland. I have seen the eejits who are selling plates like 'CCZ 2263, special personalised plate' when in fact the only special thing about it is the fact that it is from NI. A car on an Irish plate does not denote some lower life form thank you very much. *Miffed Irish guy* |
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Jonners
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Posted: 16-February-2005 at 10:25 | ||||
Chaps
some of you are missing wot basil fawlty would call the bleedin obvious chavs exist and so do nasty rich people some of you seem to find the chav stereotype less palatable - probably because you're nice minded people some of us exist at the lower end of the food chain and some at the higher end but the food chain analogy applies to many different things, not just wealth and generally folk at the lower end behave in a way that is generally perceived as undesireable it's a matter of personal preference, politics, manners, political correctness how we characterise this phenomenon but let's not be blind to realities |
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