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    Posted: 27-June-2003 at 12:24
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Points: 2057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-June-2003 at 09:46
Strange. I'll email you his number as his brother said it is OK.
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Points: 3450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27-June-2003 at 09:40

Bren

Ivan didnt call

 
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Points: 15508 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-June-2003 at 15:39
as they say "there's nothing certain life but death and taxes"!
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Points: 2057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-June-2003 at 14:41
Yes, but then they would probably charge 50-60%. You can't win with them.
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Points: 15508 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-June-2003 at 10:09
Brendan, you have to remember that the VRT rate though on imports (which was decided in consultation with the SIMI) is based upon the estimated value that car would be if on sale in Ireland.
If the car was on sale in Ireland the price would be artifically inflated due to the VRT placed on it when originally sold. Therefore VRT on imports is actually calculated on the value of a car which has already paid VRT.
In a sensible world it would be based on the value of a car less the VRT portion of the cars value. But that will never happen!
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Points: 2057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26-June-2003 at 09:49

So the valued it less at €9500. That's probably less than what it is really worth at least.

The revenue boyo's must have revised (upwards) the VRT as it seems a little higher than when I looked at it last. Surprise, surprise.

Eamo, did Ivan ring you?
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Points: 15508 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-June-2003 at 16:23

This also shows the Govts regard to the environemtn in the manner that a private 1.9L family car is taxed @ 30% whereas a lorry (which does far more mileage) gets away paying a paltry 50 quid!

...and IIRC Charlie is planning to increase VRT!
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Points: 15508 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-June-2003 at 16:15

Brendan, the VRT (Vehicle Registration Theft) percentage is based upon cc - see the table below: (BTW www.revenue.ie is crap site with very difficult navigation!)

  • Cars
 

up to 1400cc

22.5% of OMSP (Subject to a min. tax of €315)

1401cc - 1900cc

25% of OMSP(Subject to a min. tax of €315)

over 1900cc

30% of OMSP (Subject to a min. tax of €315)

  • Small Vans and some jeeps

13.3% of OMSP (Subject to a min. tax of €125)

  • Motor Cycles
 

- New

€2 per cc up to 350cc and €1 per cc thereafter

- Used

€2 per cc up to 350cc and €1 per cc thereafter less a deduction for age.

  • Hybrid Electric Vehicles
50% of VRT payable may be remitted or repaid in respect of certain hybrid vehicles. A hybrid electric vehicle is a vehicle that derives its power from a combination of an electric motor and an internal combustion engine and is capable of being driven on electric propulsion alone for a material part of its normal driving cycle.

  • Other Vehicles

e.g. Tractors, Large Vans, Lorries etc a flat rate of €50.
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Points: 3450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-June-2003 at 16:09

Bren

I thinkyour right but i think its 30% ( istand to be corrected)
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Points: 2057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-June-2003 at 15:59

Is it not 27% of the Irish value of the car? That would mean they valued it at ~€10,500.
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Points: 3450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-June-2003 at 15:59

Its absolutely flippin ridiculous that I have to pay an extra tax of nearly 3k on an 88 car.

I am very annoyed to say the least.

And as for insurance ........ dont get me started.  I was talking to William Boylan who told me that a mate of his insured an m3 for £250 on a 3000 mile limited policy

ANd the irish roads!!!! jesus im so annoyed right now.

How much more backward can this country get ?????????????
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Points: 3450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-June-2003 at 15:55

killian

didnt ask what value they placed on the car. 

They did give me a wriiten quote but I didnt ask how they arrived at it

There was no difference between the estimate and the rpice I paid
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Points: 15508 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-June-2003 at 15:30

aah - good ol' Ireland and its legalised robbery!

What value did they place on the car?
Did they show evidence of how they arrived at that price?
Was there much difference between their estimate and the price you paid?
If you can show that it is worth much less than they estimated, can you appeal it & would you be likely to succeed?
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Points: 3450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25-June-2003 at 13:12

Just handed over €2850

Not impressed!!!
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Points: 15508 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-June-2003 at 14:47
I guess the moral is to give a nordie address if stopped by customs
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Points: 3450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-June-2003 at 14:13

Killian

thanks but they asked me the mileage and I already gave it to them.  I didnt know the mileage would have been a factor - if I did i'd take them off you.
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Points: 15508 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-June-2003 at 14:06
I have a spare clock (not mine) with over 100k on it - free to good home Eamo (email me later for specific milage (SI board & IIRC rev counter, economy & temp don't work)
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Points: 3450 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-June-2003 at 14:04

i'll be doin a few donuts tonite in the fields where the lads are just after spreading muck!!!
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Points: 15508 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23-June-2003 at 13:58
I was under the assumption that they decided upon a set value for the car - my wife brought her 1 yr owned 106 from Norn Iron (where she is from) but had to pay IR£1000 on the thing - revenue decided the figure from a list average price for that years 106
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