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snapon
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 05:28 |
Goldryder wrote:
The compact IS a real BMW, just a more practical, family orientated one that was designed for the people who wanted plenty of space but not an estate. The hatchback is the middle variant, both sporty and able to carry anything and everything with relative ease.
People may think that the hatchback BMW goes against the grain of the marque as a whole but they have definately proved popular, and not just to those wishing to own their first BMW either, they are a damn fine all rounder and its a shame that it gets slated so much.
Granted, I was a bit put off by the shape but once I had driven Rhys's, well tbh when driving the car it feels and handles just like any other BMW, that is extremely well for a car of its class.
Its an impressive little car, perfect for those who want practicality without losing performance. I think Stephenperry will agree on that one, seeing as his car was matched alot of the time by Rhys's compact in Scotland last year...and I can tell you that Stephen was not holding back either...the compact proved to be a very nimble car. |
Lol, family orientated? if you have half a car how can you say family orientated? why compromise on a tourer for a compact? you been drinking?
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snapon
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 05:25 |
Rhys wrote:
My other half says, if you want an estate - you should buy a Volvo, anything else is just rubbish. People buy BMW estates because they think they look cool, it's an estate - so how can they? People buy estates 'cos they can get 7 dogs in them and the kids...
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Hang on have i missed the point again? quote: people buy BMW estates because they look cool? buy a VOLVO? 7 dogs? kids?
The BMW E46 Tourer stands out in a class of its own ,its refined its elegance, it has more of a pedigree than the compact, in fact tell your wife does she know her shopping lights are still on!
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Goldryder
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Posted: 02-July-2005 at 02:43 |
The compact IS a real BMW, just a more practical, family orientated one that was designed for the people who wanted plenty of space but not an estate. The hatchback is the middle variant, both sporty and able to carry anything and everything with relative ease.
People may think that the hatchback BMW goes against the grain of the marque as a whole but they have definately proved popular, and not just to those wishing to own their first BMW either, they are a damn fine all rounder and its a shame that it gets slated so much.
Granted, I was a bit put off by the shape but once I had driven Rhys's, well tbh when driving the car it feels and handles just like any other BMW, that is extremely well for a car of its class.
Its an impressive little car, perfect for those who want practicality without losing performance. I think Stephenperry will agree on that one, seeing as his car was matched alot of the time by Rhys's compact in Scotland last year...and I can tell you that Stephen was not holding back either...the compact proved to be a very nimble car.
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Rhys
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 18:02 |
My other half says, if you want an estate - you should buy a Volvo, anything else is just rubbish. People buy BMW estates because they think they look cool, it's an estate - so how can they? People buy estates 'cos they can get 7 dogs in them and the kids...
Do you think she's right?
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V reg Rustbucket Merc C220 Cdi estate J Reg Saab 900i 16v '63 Ford Anglia 105e deluxe R reg Honda PC50 moped..
No BMW as yet...
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snapon
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 17:54 |
Boy have we hit a raw nerve here?
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snapon
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 17:50 |
ive never like the compact as said before its a entry level for those who cant afford a real beemer,that may sound abit snobish but i think they made a mistake with this model same as the x3,when i see one i just think its a cheaper version of the X5 and naff.
Touche!!!!
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mell
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 12:15 |
gadtzzzzzzzzz and theres me thinking they couldnt make it look much worse lol
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Nick 45
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 10:54 |
What the hell is that?!!! It's saying "Renault Megane" to me!
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Rhys
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 10:45 |
The rear of this one is a bit shorter than most (as is the front)
What about this? Karmann conversion..
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Goldryder
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 10:08 |
Nick 45 wrote:
I take your point mate but I know what first attracted me to BMWs was how great I thought they looked - particularly the E30 - when I was growing up.
The Compact struck me as the first car they'd designed that just looked ... wrong. Of course having seen the one series, the Compact now looks relatively handsome ha ha! |
Never be fooled by the look of the compact, its quite sparky and is also quite popular too. The old saying 'never judge a book by its cover' definately applies.
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Nick 45
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 09:57 |
I take your point mate but I know what first attracted me to BMWs was how great I thought they looked - particularly the E30 - when I was growing up.
The Compact struck me as the first car they'd designed that just looked ... wrong. Of course having seen the one series, the Compact now looks relatively handsome ha ha!
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Goldryder
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 09:46 |
Nick 45 wrote:
Goldryder wrote:
The BMW compact is perfect for the task it was designed to be, spacious, comfy, safe and multi-purpose. |
That sounds suspiciously like "You don't look at the mantlepiece when you're poking the fire" to me.
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Apart from the Touring BMW's, on a purely practical slant, the compact is the most practical car in the range. Its still a BMW but has been designed to be an all round car and not just someone's status symbol as so many others in the range tend to be looked upon as.
Its a nice car to drive, cheap to insure and does what you want it to do without being dressy. Looks are not everything, the Ferrari Testarossa is a pretty car but totally crap for the weekly shop in Sainsbury's whereas the compact BMW may not be pleasing to the eye, it most definately carries anything you want to.
At the end of the day is what you want out of a car..practicality and inexpense to insure etc or something that looks pretty but the bootspace of an old Mini. You pays your money and you make your choice, but I definately wouldn't look down on the compact just cos it looks like its been shunted up the rearend.
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Nick 45
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 09:13 |
Goldryder wrote:
The BMW compact is perfect for the task it was designed to be, spacious, comfy, safe and multi-purpose. |
That sounds suspiciously like "You don't look at the mantlepiece when you're poking the fire" to me.
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Goldryder
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 07:20 |
The compact is a practical car, it isn't meant to be pretty. Very few hatchbacks are pretty, and those that are can often be impractical, such as my old Mk3 Supra Turbo - hatchback but hardly any bootspace due to a full roadwheel instead of a spacesaver and next to no space due to its styling. The BMW compact is perfect for the task it was designed to be, spacious, comfy, safe and multi-purpose.
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mell
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 06:45 |
Peter Fenwick wrote:
mell wrote:
hey its just my opinion
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There are two opinions, mine and the wrong one LOL
Only joking of course.
On issues of styling it is pointless arguing since beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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very true we cant all be beautiful can we haha j/k
the compact just aint my cup of tea
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mell
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 06:43 |
Goldryder wrote:
mell wrote:
Peter Fenwick wrote:
Mell, you mean to say you don't think the X5 is naff. If BMW made a mistake IMO it was going into the lifestyle 4x4 market. Great for profits poor for image
As for the compact being a car for people who can't afford a real BMW, well if ever there was a coment designed to wind up compact owners.........
Do you think the same of the new 1 series?
| i love the X5!! i was agreeing with what others said about being the more afordable range of the bmw for those who cant aford a real one lol
hey its just my opinion,doesnt mean im right,as i said each to there own,i just dont like the look of the compact never driven one didnt see the point as i dont like the ar$e ot the car,and the facelift is even worse.
gold do you have a licence?i didnt think you could drive.
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Mell, for heavens sake, I was able to drive until a few months ago, as I clearly stated in another thread months ago.
I had been driving since 1981..motorcycles, cars and articulated lorries, oh and drag cars too but you need an FIA licence for that, which til 1989 I had one of those too. |
FOR HEAVENS SAKE calm down lol
i was just askin a question,as i remember you saying that you couldnt drive thro health reason,no need to be so touchy i wondered if you were driving again!!!
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Peter Fenwick
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 06:39 |
mell wrote:
hey its just my opinion
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There are two opinions, mine and the wrong one LOL
Only joking of course.
On issues of styling it is pointless arguing since beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Entering an age of Austerity and now driving a Focus Diesel.
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Goldryder
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 06:30 |
mell wrote:
Peter Fenwick wrote:
Mell, you mean to say you don't think the X5 is naff. If BMW made a mistake IMO it was going into the lifestyle 4x4 market. Great for profits poor for image
As for the compact being a car for people who can't afford a real BMW, well if ever there was a coment designed to wind up compact owners.........
Do you think the same of the new 1 series?
| i love the X5!! i was agreeing with what others said about being the more afordable range of the bmw for those who cant aford a real one lol
hey its just my opinion,doesnt mean im right,as i said each to there own,i just dont like the look of the compact never driven one didnt see the point as i dont like the ar$e ot the car,and the facelift is even worse.
gold do you have a licence?i didnt think you could drive. |
Mell, for heavens sake, I was able to drive until a few months ago, as I clearly stated in another thread months ago.
I had been driving since 1981..motorcycles, cars and articulated lorries, oh and drag cars too but you need an FIA licence for that, which til 1989 I had one of those too.
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Robbie Bradford
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 06:25 |
I think BMW entered the SUV market based on the fact that there was no top class performer in this sector and it remains the best in it's class. Don't forget they built the Range Rover aswell which is the another step up in luxury and pretty unbeatable IMO.
As for the compact, being an entry level model meant it was always going to be slated, but it did make the BMW marque more affordable to people who otherwise might not be able to afford a new model. As stated before, i've owned the the E36 version and never regreted a minute. I bought it as it was the cheapest BMW to insure as it was'nt considered a sports model like the coupe.
5 years on i drive an E36 M3 but i owe it all to the compact putting me on the ladder
I meant to add, the E36 compact was a successful model for BMW as is the X5 but i think they may have got carried away trying to make new niche's in the market like the X3, i mean what is it suppose to rival.....the Freelander? i don't see the point.
Also, the more i see the new models against the old version, the more convinced i am that something special has been lost in design
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mell
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Posted: 01-July-2005 at 06:01 |
Peter Fenwick wrote:
Mell, you mean to say you don't think the X5 is naff. If BMW made a mistake IMO it was going into the lifestyle 4x4 market. Great for profits poor for image
As for the compact being a car for people who can't afford a real BMW, well if ever there was a coment designed to wind up compact owners.........
Do you think the same of the new 1 series?
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i love the X5!! i was agreeing with what others said about being the more afordable range of the bmw for those who cant aford a real one lol
hey its just my opinion,doesnt mean im right,as i said each to there own,i just dont like the look of the compact never driven one didnt see the point as i dont like the ar$e ot the car,and the facelift is even worse.
gold do you have a licence?i didnt think you could drive.
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